--- title: Episode 119 Female Hustlers episode_number: 119 era: mid source_file: Episode 119 Female Hustlers.mp3 audio_size_mb: 54.5 duration_sec: 1786.3 duration_min: 29.8 language: en provider: deepgram model: nova-3 diarized: true confidence: 0.996 transcribed_at: 2026-05-27T16:55:33Z--- # Episode 119 Female Hustlers **Speaker 0:** Tom Torero podcast a 119 from South America on men getting hustled. So rather than you doing the hustling, are girls or women during your daygame texting dating even your relationships? Are they hustling you in some form? We'll come on to that in sixty seconds after the, obvious up which needs to be done at the beginning of every podcast. I'm finishing off my thirty days of filth on my newly designed, newly optimized mobile friendly website tomterrero.com. I hope you like it. It's nice and minimalistic, nice and clean, loads fast. Anyway, the dirty 30 series of blog posts, one a day I've done in August, they are finishing today from my new book, Below the Belt. If you think I'm a nice guy, just read the filth. And secondly, these podcasts are for free. The YouTube is for free. I've been doing it for a long time. If you want me to keep going indefinitely, support what I do. You can just leave a review if you want on iTunes or on my, book publishing site, Lulu, or on Amazon. You can very kindly buy one of my products, etcetera, etcetera. Thank you very much. Big man love coming your way. Okay. Getting hustled. And certainly when you travel, definitely to South America, you you are cautious of being hustled or being scammed. If you've traveled a lot, you'll know what I mean. You're looking out for taxi scams, you're looking out for hotel scams, ATM scams, bar scams, tourist prices in general, trannies and lady boys in Asia, etcetera. And the human fallacy is we all like to think that we're immune to being scammed and hustled. That's classic human psychology. You know, persuasion works on everybody else but not me. And hustlers, daygamers, people that work online, they hustle online. You like to think that you're even better at spotting scams because you have that social calibration. That's partly true. A daygamer who holds the frame, he's been hustling for a long time. Yeah. He can spot some of the basic hustles just like a traveler. But I'm gonna talk about today some of the female hustles on you that you might not have thought of. Yep. I'll kick off with a quote from Eddie Azar, the great surreal British comedian. And he said something like, cats have a great scam going. A fucking great scam going. Right? You buy the food, they eat the food, they go away. That's the scam. It sounds flippant but that's really the frame we're talking about today. A fucked frame. Yeah? Because at the end of the day, it's black and white. My friend, either you're the hustler or you're being hustled. Alright. That's it. There's no equalism here. Either you're the hustler or you're the mark as they say in in hustling. Yeah. And with secret society stuff as I talk about in street hustle, the first hustle is really you hustling a girl who has higher sexual market value than you. You get her into bed. Perhaps you were pretending to be her boyfriend. Perhaps you had some crazy fake DHVs going on and afterwards she feels a bit stung, you never see her again. That's kind of beginner intermediate hustling. And then you move on to the real secret society stuff of both of you hustling against society. So she's in on it. She's cheating on her boyfriend or her fiance or her husband. You're in on it. She wants casual sex. You want casual sex. But you're hustling society because you're not playing by the rules. Alright? She's younger than you. She is hotter than you. You're not getting her in social circle or at work or in a nightclub or online. You're just going up to her putting your balls in the line. That's why I called it street hustling. I love the concept obviously of, hustling. You'll know how I link it to poker and to pool and to the stock market and to magic. That's all in street hustle. You know. And I've told you many times of about how daygame links to films like Ocean's 11 or the BBC series, Real Hustle I think it was called or old classic hustling movies like The Color of Money. Do you remember that? Paul Newman, The Color of Money. It's a great movie. It's about, someone being the hustler, as I said, and someone being the mark. It's the frame you set or you fucking have it set for you. Right? Either you're holding the frame, and they're jumping through your hoop or they're holding the frame and you're jumping through their hoop, if that makes sense. We'll come on to that and break that down in today's podcast. Yeah? Okay. How do girls hustle you? Some of them are really obvious that you'll be well aware of if you're a daygamer. If you're just a normal Joe, even if you've never heard of pickup, you're pretty blue pill as they say, you'll be aware of some pretty obvious hustles. Yep. The obvious one being hookers. Right? Because it's blatant. It's actually a good thing that it's blatant, you know, where a girl advertises that she's a prostitute, oldest profession in the world if you like. She she she names a price. The guy pays the price. They have sex. That's a transaction. It's certainly not game. Okay? But it is sex and whatever if you need to lose your virginity that way, I don't give a fuck. If you're a player who's getting laid loads and loads and loads and occasionally you get a hooker for fun. I don't give a fuck. We'll talk about when it becomes a problem. But the real gray area, the real problem for daygamers is when sometimes you'll read online or in a comment section or a student will say to me, well, isn't all sex kind of transactional? You know? Because at the end of the day, Tom, you're basically paying in some form or another, you know, so why can't I just fuck her because this daygame hustling stuff is just ridiculous. Right? I mean, like, you pay on the date and you pay with your time and therefore, all prostitution is just the same as game. That's the classic argument, classic fallacy that you read online. Yep. This guy, I think, is kidding himself because you know and your body knows, certainly your dick knows the difference between negotiated desire which I call duty, you know, as in provider, sugar daddy, we'll come on to that. Even as in boyfriend or husband when you're, she's fucking you because it's duty or secret society desire, which is CAD, which is lover, which is fast sex. If you're still not sure of the difference and why there's that biological evolutionary difference, why women have a two pronged mating strategy, Read those fucking 30 free blog posts, on my blog all the way from the August 1 to today because that's why I wrote them. I'm writing this new book to shock new guys into realizing, oh, fuck. There's two different forms of sex. Oh, shit. I'm falling into traps. Oh, shit. Girls are hustling me. Oh, wow. Girls are really doing this even though they say they're not. Oh my god. This is what girls actually do or fantasize about doing. And if the right guy, if the right lover comes along and sets that frame, she's gonna jump through the hoop even though shock horror she has a boyfriend. Oh my god. She's engaged. Oh my god. She's married. Oh my god. She's religious. I break all that shit down on my website, and that's all for free. Okay? So let's just start by separating desire and duty. You have to understand that difference and then that starts to make the hustles clearer. Yeah? Because think about it this way. That stripper in the club or even that hooker or the girl pulling that, scam on you or the girl collecting, a passport, a visa, she's looking for a provider, a sugar daddy, etcetera etcetera. That's all the duty fucking. Yeah? But that girl, listen to this, still watches porn. She still fantasizes and I'm sure she's still fucking someone. I always say that to guys when we go to Prague and I take them to this bar near Charles Bridge which is just a normal bar, but god bless the Czechs. They're filthy. So downstairs in the bar, it's, strippers on the bar surface even though it's not a strip club. Right? And you look at these girls, the students have their tongues hanging out. Oh my god, she's so hot man. And guys are throwing money. It's full of fat old guys, or just choddy guys. The girls are really good at, you know, giving off the signals, pretending it's desire, they get more money. And I say to the student, look, somebody a real guy is fucking her tonight. Right? She gets wet for somebody. Certainly not for those guys in the bar. I'm not saying you can't pick up strippers. You can. It's a form of hustling. It's a completely different thing to daygame, but, you can do it. I've even done it. There's one story of me doing it. My one and only stripper story really, in my first book, another plug. But, yeah, she gets wet for somebody. She has desire for somebody. She fantasizes about a certain bad boy or a celebrity. Alright? It might not be you but it's somebody. And that's a harsh red pill truth as you walk around looking at strippers or gold digging girls or bitchy girls or, you know, the really hot celebrity girls. Just think somebody's fucking her and she's doing it from desire. Okay? And the harsh truth is that it's not the nice, sweet, polite, reliable, Christian, conservative, religious, kind did I say kind, nice guy. It's probably the guy who got out of jail. It's probably the car mechanic. It's probably the low IQ guy. It's probably just the jock as I speak about in that post series. Yeah? That's a harsh truth. Nice guys don't bargain with that truth, but that's secret society. Okay. So first of all, you have to admit it to yourself. You don't really have to admit it to anybody else in the beginning. Just have to think, does this girl like me from desire or is this some form of duty? So separate that in your head. If you're in a strip club or even if you're banging hookers, I'm not against hookers, I'm not against strippers, you just got to admit it to yourself. Hookers and strippers are just doing a job. Okay? They're hustling way harder than the average Joe. They're very very good at it. They're good at faking those desire signals. And, as long as you admit that that's what it is, it's not game. You can't put it on your list of lays. I've met one guy once who said he had a lay count of 40 and he was a new daygamer. I was like, holy shit, man. You were a nightgamer? He's like, no. They were hookers. I'm like, well, man, you can't really or you can't certainly include those 40 hookers as notches. Okay? They're great sexual experience and if you're a guy in his mid twenties, you still haven't gotten laid, you've got a purity fantasy, you come from a Mormon religious background, okay, fucking do it. Go to Amsterdam, go to Vegas, Lose your virginity to a hooker. But it is what it is. Okay? She hustled you. You gave her money. It was a transaction. You got a bit of sexual experience. But notice how your body felt. Often guys can't get it up. Obviously, you're not kissing the guilt. There isn't foreplay. It feels weird. Your body knows the difference. This is the key thing. Certainly, your brain does between desire and duty. Okay. So the most blatant hustle, which I'm sure you know is hookers. Alright? But even in Vegas, it's pretty obvious. Red Light District's super super super obvious. We'll come on to, we'll come on to false positives later about girls that might be hookers. Okay. The next thing you could say a tear down is strippers, strip clubs or you know those titty bars in Asia. Guys like to kid themselves that, they're doing game, they're running game, they even write lay reports on this where they pay the bar tab, she goes home with them, there's some form of transaction, they fuck or I met one gamer actually last time in South America and he was telling me all these stories and I was I was like holy shit man, this guy's a pimp. And, after about an hour of all these amazing stories around the world, I said, you know, what's your strategy? How do you do it? What's the bedroom thing? And he's like, well, I pull them from the club in x y z country. They come back to mine. We fuck. They sleep over and in the money I give them in the morning I give them $50. I was like, okay. So, it's light prostitution, but it's a transaction. Okay. She hustled you. You get a bit more of the girlfriend experience perhaps, but it's still not game. Okay. Because just separated, it was a duty fuck. And sure, she might even have a little bit of feeling towards you. But remember she's fucking that other guy from desire and that's not you. Okay? But other subtler forms of hustling, tears down from that, which perhaps don't, involve just blatant sex. Bar promo girls. Alright. I had this with students. I talk about it in my first book or second book I think in Latvia in Riga which has unfortunately got a stag do reputation like Prague and Vilnius and Krakow. Loads of groups of British guys pissed, German guys pissed, Scandinavian guys pissed roaming around. There's a specific street where when the sun starts to go down, two girls just walk around really hot in heels and they approach you. And when I first landed in Latvia with my original wing, we were like, holy shit. These girls are giving us IOIs. Look, more girls giving us IOIs. They talk to you. They're very flirty. They're amazing at hustling, so they do the attraction. They get you to hook. They build rapport, and then they bounce you. And this is when I was looking at my wing even though we were quite new to daygame at the time when we were like, this is weird and we bolted. And then we googled it and yeah, it's a bar scan. They get you into some CD backstreet bar. You order the drinks for them. They disappear. The bill comes. It's fucking extortionate. And if you can't pay, surprise surprise, the boys show up. Okay? And you can't leave until you pay. Classic bar scam using, girls that are amazing at hustling. Alright? So this is a tier down, this is a tier above charity sign up people. Surprise, surprise, they're often hot girls on the street with clipboards getting lonely middle aged men's credit card details because they talk to the guy, they hook him in with attraction material. He can't believe he's talking to a cute 21 year old girl. He gives her credit card details for some kind of charity and then he thinks, oh fuck. I was hustled. What did I do? But it was a legal hustle. Yeah. Same with shop assistants. I say to beginners, don't really daygame on shop assistants or waitresses because they're out to hustle you. Right? They are, trying to sell you something. Alright? It's not illegal. That's their job. They've got a strong frame. They've got patter. A good salesperson is really good at making you feel comfortable. Rapport. They're laughing at your jokes. She's flicking her hair. She's mimicking tiger eyes almost. Yep. She's dressed up really hot. That's suspicious. Why are a lot of girls shop girls hot? Why do they put the hottest one by the door to meet and greet? And the green horn naive daygamer goes in, he thinks, wow, she's given me attraction. He goes for the number, it's clumsy or she gives it to him, just to get rid of him. So that's a hard framework going on. And of course, I love picking up shop assistants. There's plenty of stories of me picking up waitresses but it's a frame war she's trying to hustle you you're trying to hustle her somebody wins somebody loses that is Darwinian okay alright classic online hustles that you'll know about but, watch out for certainly if you're 30, 40, 50. It's the passport pussy kind of stuff of South Southeast Asia, East Eastern Europe. If you're a daygamer, you don't really run into this stuff. In my book, Cold Calling, I go in-depth about how to spot these girls and the difference between scammers looking for your passport or a green card and normal regular girls. Daygame, you find the normal regular girls because you're not going to the tourist bars to these kind of semi gold diggery, bars, provider replaces where those gills are expert at fishing. But sometimes it's more subtle. Alright. And this is the gray area online where guys are writing lay reports from Southeast Asia, from places like Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand or over to Dominican Republic where they meet the girl on Tinder or online, warning warning signs, you know, expert female hustlers online on Tinder. They meet up with a girl, it seems so easy, they fuck, and then the girl asks for taxi money. Okay. And even though the girl is just taking the cheapo Filipino bus home, she asks you for a lot of US dollars. Alright. I know a guy who does this a lot. He pays the the taxi ride and he says, wow, plus one. Hell of fucking leah. That was great. I got laid. Does he know? I'm not sure. Do those guys know? I'm not sure. Now, that's not to say you can't do proper day game in Bangkok or Dominican Republic. You can. You can create desire. You cannot give her anything. She just wants to fuck you and she keeps fucking you and you can have threesomes and it's dirty. You know that that's desire. You can tell the difference, my friend. That's what I mean by just feeling it in your stomach. Okay? Gut reaction. Sometimes I've heard a guy in New York, he was telling me all about the lazy guy in Dominican Republic. I was like, nice one, man. He's like, yeah. It's so fucking easy. You meet the girl, you take her home, you fuck her, and then she just asks you to buy her some rice or some food and then you send her on her way. Yeah. That's like Cuba, you know. That's that is a transaction that is the hustle from duty. She's hustling you lightly. No. She's not a prostitute but it's a hustle. Okay? It's not as obvious as those sugar daddy seeking arrangement sites. That is blatant. Once again, blatant transaction. And again, if you're a 70 year old fat dude, who with no game or you used to have game, God bless you and now you think fuck it, just blow all my money. Okay. I met a guy, he was a teacher. He will remain anonymous but it was in a school I was working in in Spain. I went to teach in Spain for a year. This guy was a secondary school teacher and after work would go for beers and he would tell me all these crazy stories about how he took a sabbatical from teaching when he was 40 years old or 39 years old and he went around the world on a hooker tour, on a sugar daddy kind of tour. Blatant. Okay? He didn't see it as game. He just researched all these places. He read up on it, found the best whores, the best whore houses, the best sugar daddy sites, paid through the roof, had a fucking great time, know, orgies with five girls. But he was open about it. He just loved hookers. He didn't really have any game, bless him. Back then, I didn't have any game. Didn't know what the game was really. So, yeah, that's open. Okay. Seeking arrangements. But you'd be surprised how many guys are still getting hustled by it. Lonely guys, divorced guys, guys online getting reeled in by very clever Ukrainians or Thai girls. And you think, well, we all know this. I would never send money abroad but you know, I've had friends who have fallen for the kind of pregnancy scams, you know, where the girl is asking for money in Asia, you don't know if it's your kid. So there you go. Alright. I didn't realize we got ten minutes left so I will keep going a little bit faster. Subtle forms of hustling. Think about this, if you're a boyfriend or if you're shock horror married. Okay? Is she fucking you out of desire or is she fucking you from duty? Okay? Are you letting her stay with you? Are you giving her money? Are you a literal provider? Are you giving her half your shit? Is she gonna run off, divorce you and you're gonna give her half your shit? Okay. Are you gonna get taken to the cleaners? Are you still a little bit idealistic? Listen to my purple pill podcast. Yeah. You'd be surprised even some PUAs, even some fucking coaches are quite purple pill. They're very idealistic when it comes to relationships after six months they get scammed when she moves in, demands loads of shit and then breaks up and he's like wow, blindsided. I didn't see that coming. Okay. So think of that. Just ask yourself those questions and a good little exercise something practical to do now which I do, and I'm sure you keep a list of the girls you fuck or your ex girlfriends. If you don't, I think you're lying. If you say you can't remember them, I think you're lying unless you've had, you know, a thousand Mick Jagger esque bangs. But if you've had 30 notches, I reckon you can remember them. Okay? So look back on those girls and think, what did she want from me? And, you can put next to the name an l if you were the lover or a p if you were some kind of, you know, semi boyfriend provider. I don't mean sugar daddy giving her money, but I mean, was she after your time and your investment and your boyfriend abilities and companionship or did she just want down and dirty secret society fucking? Just ask yourself that question. As a daygamer, you'll probably see that the early interactions were all kind of boyfriend role and after a year or two you got into lover role and that's what the dirty 30 series of blog post is about. Yeah? Also ask yourself this, with each of those girls, specifically the girls you fucked more than once and dated, what did you want from her? And guys will always go, that's easy. Sex. Well, yeah, initially, you wanted to bang her because hopefully she was hot. But then why did you stick around with her? Yeah. Because monogamy is not normal. Biological evolutionary truths. Yeah. Why did you stick around with Probably it was affection addiction. Okay. Where you made her your girlfriend. Maybe you moved in with her to save rent. Maybe there was something going on. Maybe she was a rich milf. Hallelujah. A cougar, you know, and she paid for all your bills and you hustled her. Like the story of the one the cougar fuck in Hollywood from the world tour. But that's a good simple exercise to spot the difference. Okay. A review of the false positives. I made a video on this. I think it's called street hustle false positives and this is for daygamers who are out there and they're thinking, wow, I'm doing okay. Girls are chatty. Girls are friendly. Girls are very open. This is fantastic. I'm getting loads of phone numbers. It's a beginner trap. Okay? Because you expect resistance, you want resistance, you want shit tests, you want some normal token LMR, it's healthy. Okay? If the set hooks too easily, right? Maybe she's a Las Vegas hooker. Maybe it's just a friendly small town vibe in the middle of nowhere in Canada. That's not the real hook point. Yeah. Maybe it's just blah blah blah blah blah. The girl is a motor mouth like American or Australian girls on the street on the day. It's false investment. She hasn't really hooked. She could be talking to a fucking ball and actually she's holding the frame. You need to stop that. You need to take back control. Okay? The the terrible situation of beginner daygame is that it's often friendly, you get the digits and she invites you to a fucking exhibition or to an event or to a barbecue or to some salsa dancing. And you think, I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. And then you realize, oh, fuck. I've been friend zoned. She has no idea what I want. Yep. She's not really scamming you but these are false positives. So in day game, you don't really just want to feed on yes girls. It's not gonna toughen you up. That's not game. Game is played with the maybe girls. Alright. That is game. You're trying to hustle her for sex. She's trying to hustle you in the beginning for investment and commitment. Somebody wins. For one person to win, the other person has to lose unless it's that secret society temporary, you know, win win situation of both getting a fuck out of each other but she'll disappear. Okay? So ultimately, somebody is more invested than the other person, somebody gets stung. That's the hustle my friend. That's life. That's evolutionary biology. That's competition. Be very careful now because summer is coming to an end. August is wrapping up and we're moving into fall into autumn which means boyfriend hunting season. I don't mean you going out and hunting boyfriends, I mean girls are. Okay? Girls have had their summer sex, they've had loads of lovers, they've been to Ibiza and to Cancun and they've been to Miami and, they've had a lot of fun unless you're listening in Australia where it's flip side, where you're coming into your summer but in the Northern Hemisphere, yeah, girls are hibernating slowly, they want that boyfriend so she'll start being really nice to you, cooking for you, giving you blowjobs, letting you do anal but she wants to move in with you. She leaves shit in your house. She says you can't see other girls. She lays down the law. She takes the frame. She's demanding. You have to text her four times a day. Oh shit. You just got hustled my friend and that was six months of your time and then you're gonna contact me in the spring and say Tom I was stunk and we have a Skype session. Oh fuck, I've got approach anxiety again. That's a very common pattern for Skype. A guy will daygame get hustled by a girl. Sure there's bit of affection it's okay and then he'll go all the way down the snakes and ladders board to the beginning and he has to learn daygame again and then he'll get stung again. That's affection addiction. Okay. Never really moving on to red pill, you're stuck in purple pill. Listen to my affection addiction podcast where I talk about that. Okay. So resist. Resist, resist, resist. Alright. Now, a quick story to finish which I haven't told yet from the world tour which illustrates the false positives and illustrates the hustling and illustrates the the thing where even if you've had a lot of experience you got to be on the lookout for it. This was from Hollywood again in, Las Vegas where Craig and I were staying on the world tour and I had left Craig to fuck some bird in the apartment and he said okay, it's safe to come back. So I walked into the apartment, saw Craig and I think we were off to get some beers or something. We just left the apartment again, literally walked outside and both of us spotted this girl, very dreamy, ambling around. I think she had a can of beer in her hand. She was smoking a cigarette. It was kind of an Amy Winehouse girl, filthy as I would call it in in a good hustling way and Craig smiled at me and nodded, he just got laid to was like fuck it Tom, go for it. It was a semi dark so neither of us had seen her face but anyway, I ran in, Immediately it was on. She wasn't great, bless her, but it was you know, gift from the gods. It was a yes girl. I was like, oh, okay. Green light's flashing. She's off to drink in a park. Immediately I said, well, let's have a beer together. She said she didn't have her idea on her so I said, we'll just come to the supermarket and bounced immediately across the road. Craig had left us and he was in the supermarket. I texted Craig to say, give me the fucking keys. So Craig slid past me in the dairy aisle and dropped the keys into my hand all very oceans 11 ish. So we picked up a six pack of beers me and this girl paid for it, walked straight across the Road I said come into my apartment. This was ten fifteen minutes into the interaction straight into the apartment, two minutes in the kitchen, straight into the bedroom because I said, oh my friend's gonna be back in a minute, music on, straight into making out and then when I tried to put my hand underneath her top, she said, you know you have to pay. There you go. So Tom Torero has got hustled. I've been hustled before in Moscow. I am wary of it obviously in Las Vegas. I took in cold calling about how I was on some very innocent dates with very innocent girls, you know, in Starbucks or just a quick beer. And afterwards in Moscow, occasionally should say something like, oh, it's a thousand dollars an hour or something. And you're like, what the fuck? And anyone who's traveled a lot, anyone who's daygamed a lot, anyone who's hustled a lot, they'll have this have happened to them. Even getting her into the house as I said on the bed and then she's a hustler. It's not a bounce back. That wasn't a real set. That wasn't a lay if you did fucking pay her or give her some rice or her taxi fare. Okay? So to sum up, be honest with yourself about, is it negotiated desire as in a duty fuck as in she's hustling you for something and that can be as subtle as her being your girlfriend. Think about it. Certainly for married men. Think about this loud and clear. Are you being hustled? Be honest with yourself. Are you being hustled? Who's got the frame? Who's in control? Is she fucking you out of desire? And if you if you still don't know the difference and if you still can't spot if it's a real orgasm or not, read those fucking blog posts. Okay? Because it's crucial. That's why the theory of evolution and the theory of biology, which is red pill. Red pill just means the truths of evolutionary biology, how men and women interact. If you don't get that, then you're very, very open to being hustled even if you've got game. That's why a lot of pickup artist, artist, a lot of rock stars, a lot of celebrities, they meet a hot girl even though they fucked hundreds, thousands of girls, they get stung by her and then they end up in the divorce courts. They lose half their shit. They lose their kids. It can get extreme. Okay? So be on the lookout for hustling. You are the hustler, my friend. Don't be the mark. That was podcast 19. The next one will be from back in Europe. Keep grabbing life by the horns.