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# Episode 120 Daygame Simplified (Occams Razor)

**Speaker 0:** Tom

**Speaker 1:** Torero podcast a 120 on Occam's Razor. Not really on Occam's Razor. I'm just gonna throw that in as a little bit of a link because I'm sitting here reunited with a friend with a wing. We are in Colombia just for a few days, just for forty eight hours ready to fly home. A familiar voice. I think this is podcast number three for this guest. How many podcasts have you been on, Ian? Might be four now, think, actually. I don't know. Jesus. I must be getting desperate. I am scraping the barrel. Got no other content, so we thought, oh, here's Ian. I'll get back. Ian's been traveling the world this year. If you've listened to him on other podcasts, you know that he's a digital nomad. That's fucking hard to say and cliched, but Ian was doing it before me. That is working online, and now he's a filthy bastard. So really this year, he's gone nuts. He's gone around the world. He's just been around South America for the second time this year, so we're gonna be talking about that. We're gonna be talking about his improvements because he's been in the game I think this is his third year anniversary is that right nearly yet few weeks away yeah which is really not much at all mate it's highly impressive you know you always big up your mates and you say oh, they're they're really good with gills. But Ian is really, really, really good with gills. And I've traveled with him and I've winged with him and I've seen most importantly the gills that he fucks. And, yeah, quality has gone up this year, we'll but talk about improvements and also this wouldn't be the Tom Torero podcast without some filthy stories perhaps you enjoyed reading my 30 blog posts the dirty 30 they're still on my website lots of filth and as I've seen Ian over the years he's made that progression too from polite nice boyfriend kind of sweet guy daygamer which gets you laid to utter filth. And we'll have a few stories on utter filth. As ever, upsell at the beginning. If you wanna support what I do, buy a book, buy my video product, or leave a review, leave a nice comment on YouTube, leave a comment on iTunes, on Lulu. It all helps to spread the man love. But anyway, why did I call podcast a 120 Occam's Razor? It's geeky. It's scientific, but it makes sense in terms of daygame and mental masturbation and guys loving the theory, you know, keyboard pickup artist and loads of different companies and coaches saying this is the truth about attraction. No. This is the truth. No. This is how you do a date. No. This is how you do a date. Oh, this is our model. Oh, fuck you. This is our model. And a new guy just goes, well, what the fuck, is the What's the truth? And I've said many times that all competing companies and instructors and theories, they all boil down to the same thing. But what, somebody who's been in the game three or four or five or six plus years does is what's the cooking word? Simmer it down to its essence until almost nothing's left. So that's pretty useless advice for a beginner because you need to learn attraction, comfort, seduction. You need to learn escalation, bloody bloody blah. But what Ian's done for sure, because I watch him even game real time, and you'd think, well, what really is going on? Nothing seems to be going on what's going on with texting what's going on with the date Ian will tell you about his date model, how is that possible well Occam's Razor you might know that as the scientific and philosophical rule I'm quoting says that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily, which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex ones. I cut the mental masturbation and wanky theories and, you know, massive massive reams of writing, what the fuck actually matters? And after four years in game plus, or three years in game, in Ian's case, you basically find your own answer. And you say, well, I know what game is. I know what causes attraction. I know what to do on a date, and I don't need to read anymore. I don't need to watch anymore of these fucking videos. I don't need to take any training. So perhaps you're new to this and you still need the theory, street hustle, stealth seduction if you wanna see it for real. If you've been in the game long enough, game is just scaffolding. It's just training wheels. Take them off. I'm not some fucking cult guru leader saying, must do what Tom Torero says. No. You should fucking simmer it down. Anyway, we're in Colombia. We're getting ready to fly home. It's gonna be a shock in terms of time and temperature. But here is Ian sitting next to me in the podcast studio. And first of all, mate, you've gone nuts with the traveling perhaps more than me this year because your online businesses are sorted which is a topic for another day but where where has Wally been or where's Waldo as they say in America where has Waldo been in 2017

**Speaker 0:** and where are you gonna go? Yeah it has been a year of lots of travel actually and which is I don't think I quite set out to do that it's You just kind of have such a stable plan. I think I've done like 45 flights or something this up to now this year but yes I started off the year in South America spent some time in Chile which was good. Santiago is a nice city. That was good. I got laid off my second approach in the continent which was rather a nice easy start and then moved my way up. Spent a little bit of time in Colombia at the start of the year. That was good. Then back to Europe. Numerous trips to Russia,

**Speaker 1:** went to Sofia in Bulgaria as well which was Quick summary, Bulgaria lots of people ask me about Sofia.

**Speaker 0:** It was shit. Nice city. Got, you know, it's got it had everything that kind of the ingredients Yeah. To be a good city for daygame apart from girls. That were just Just like Romania. You'd think there should be loads of hot girls. Either they all bugger off or genetics is too mixed. Mhmm. That's the conclusion. But, yeah, it was nice city, nice temperature, nice shopping area, but the girls were just not hot. And think I was there four or five nights, and I wouldn't go back. Spent some time in Krakow down in Poland. That was nice.

**Speaker 1:** You're back in The UK, though? Very

**Speaker 0:** little time in The UK, actually. Maybe ten days or something so far this year. Hardly anything. The best results in Europe have come from my trips to Russia which were probably the three hottest girls of my life perhaps definitely one of them was I think the hottest and then back to South America I've been to Chile, Argentina, Peru and now here in Colombia sat with you. Where are you going in

**Speaker 1:** November December?

**Speaker 0:** End of the year flying to Japan early November, first time there so that's quite exciting.

**Speaker 1:** Then If it's still there. Yeah. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed it's still there. Dare Kim John, whatever your name is don't you fucking dare.

**Speaker 0:** And then I'm going down to Australia which is predominantly for cricket because I'm a cricket fan and I always used to lie in bed listening to the ashes as a young boy so it'd be nice to be there for a test match then I'll go down to Sydney and bit of daygame catch up with some friends.

**Speaker 1:** Well it's a ridiculous year because your income is sorted online that's we've spoken about that before but I will do another podcast in the future because Ian is a wizard with Ian's helped me with the MR points points in general how to fly business class Ian fucking flies first class not through spending cash but clever ways to get points just sorting out the hustle so that's why and how he travels a lot okay but game because this is a podcast about game and Occam's Razor simmering it down. In the beginning I remember we've made podcasts about fake it till you make it and going out doing loads and loads and loads and reading all the books street hustle and learning stuff and filling your head in, like, complicated date models and real structure. But this year, even at the end of last year, I've not seen you do anything like that. I've not even seen you do kind of massive day game sessions. Occasionally, when we traveled in Russia, I saw you do a little bit. So what's the difference? Like, you've got hotter birds with less game, Occam's Razor, and new guys or maybe intermediate guys are gonna well, how? Because I thought Tom said you have to learn theory and do 30 approaches a week

**Speaker 0:** Yeah, okay, so at the start of this year the plan was to do a little bit less and try and optimize my results because I was aware when I kind of sat back and reviewed the year before that I had these periods of really good success and then these dry kind of spells where I wasn't really feeling it my vibe wasn't that great I was chugging along anyway. So this year my plan was to do less. I'd got to the point where I was not bored of going out doing day game but the improvement curve it basically without trying to be arrogant I wasn't really improving because I'd got to a level where you know I couldn't really get that much more improvement so going out wasn't as exciting anymore I was only going out for results blah blah blah so my plan was to go out less but only really go out when I'm feeling it when I wanted it and when I desired it and when I wasn't really feeling it not bother that's not something I'd advise someone to do that hasn't put a lot of time into this already because you're just not going to get results but I mean because of my lifestyle I was quite fortunate because the first well since I got into game I've had time to do a lot of it so it's not like I've tried to fit it in around a nine to five job you know so I've been able to really optimise the amount of time I've spent but it's so yeah going back to that the question it's interesting because occasionally I'll do some coaching with some guys and I'll find myself telling them to do things that I realized full well I don't do myself and so that kind of got me thinking that's a little bit kind of strange like you're you know what this guy should do in this situation but I don't do it myself if I if he was to just watch me in average day when I'm approaching, he'd be like, well, hang on. You didn't do that or that or that. Yep. So it was I'd become aware that I was not really following the model or not.

**Speaker 1:** Was a lot of it had melted away. We were talking over lunch about the purpose of game and I think even our first podcast together was called fake it till you make it. Was that the first one? First or second, I think. Yeah. Which is the whole point of game, which is in the beginning you think you have or you do have pretty low sexual market value as a guy and you fake it with game. You learn all those game tricks which are ethical because that's what you do in persuasion and sales you're presenting a higher value and you do that with all the game techniques that you can read about that's why it's called the hustle and it's scaffolding there's loads of scaffolding and in daygame three point zero I say you finally take off the scaffolding when you're making a new building you can't just leave the scaffolding on there when you've made the building and it seems this year maybe last year definitely this year for you 99% of the scaffoldings come off like your date model is almost non existent it's pretty silent and your speciality is the hand which you can talk about and you certainly feel like you're not faking it anymore yeah because that value if you are sleeping with those Russian girls which you have done I've seen the fucking quality and girls around world your body must say oh hang on a minute this is not fake I I am capable of that I believe in my value whether you had that value before and you just didn't know it is another question but I believe that you've like stripped

**Speaker 0:** all the scaffolding off. Yeah absolutely you you I see game as a system to fake being the guy the confident guy that does sleep with attractive girls and has an abundance and then once you get to a certain point then you're using less and less game because you have become that you don't need to say the thing that you need to do to pretend to be that guy you are that guy. That doesn't mean like you said before there are still times where a girl is extra hot and you're like holy shit you know and you like you still need to you still or you feel the need maybe maybe you don't you know but there's there's that little bit of doubt occasionally that you'll just

**Speaker 1:** fall back on the structure but that's that's what it's there for you. I think principles are embedded as well like your text game is on autopilot the way you Ian resorts to you know just hand holding on a date rather than questions games, strawberry fields, five step escalation and when I was recording Stealth Seduction it was like you said it was I had to remember like, shit. This is a teaching product. So in stealth seduction, do cube, strawberry fields, five step physical escalation. And often here in South America, I've done none of that and not one venue or no venues. I've walked girls back, but you're right that if you're learning this stuff,

**Speaker 0:** Ian and I are not saying freestyle. Don't don't do this stuff. You gotta learn the shit, and then you gotta drop the shit. Is that right? Once once you've learned it, you've got the confidence to drop it whereas until you've learnt it you don't really know what to say what to do and you're nervous and if you're nervous the girl's gonna pick up on that so it's when you get to that phase but yeah my dating is has changed a lot I used to try and steer it with verbally. Would you know with verbal spikes and the questions game. I remember must be year and a half ago I was having what I thought at the time and it was you know good results by using the questions game to steer dates the direction I wanted them to. Now I barely do any verbal escalation at all it's just and I know a lot of guys always want to sit next to a girl on a sofa I much prefer to sit opposite them and just take their hand. Use some excuses at first, know, always have some rings on, maybe they do, you mess around with their fingers and then as soon as possible take their hand and just waiting for that moment that they accept my handhold and then maybe they caress it back and I can read everything that's happening from that. And and the verb what's going on verbally is irrelevant. You could be having a Yeah. Boring conversation about fucking what her job is or anything. It's everything's going on under the radar.

**Speaker 1:** That's what I've got an example in front of us of Occam's Razor which is exactly that because think of it like you're the doctor diagnosing the situation here with a girl which is compliance and the beginner when he's trying to get compliance from the girl and there's so many variables he says well what's going wrong that's always the question in coaching is it my jacket is it my voice is it is she no girl did I say something he can't diagnose but through game this is what this note says on Occam's Razor it says in medicine there are many explanations for symptoms and they take the simplest diagnosis first. So for example, if a child has a runny nose it probably has a common cold rather than some kind of freaky rare birth defect. Medical students are often told when you hear hoof beats think horses not zebras. So yeah, when a girl is sitting in front of me and I think oh why is she is she wobbling a little bit there or why is she just asked my age or why is she asked where I live? I know what that means I know those shit tests and I know the most common explanation because I've done it hundreds thousands of times right so in the beginning self diagnosis is tough so get a coach record yourself ask a wing who's better than you but in the end you're kind of self diagnosing aren't you and going she's a time waster oh she's on I'll fuck it skip venue two I'll fuck it hand hold oh this is real LMR oh she's a virgin which we'll talk about oh she's a psycho about which leads us nicely on our halfway point to filth, filth and enjoyment of tales around the world from Ian there's too many to talk about this year some of them I've been there and seen it or seen the aftermath but you've chosen a few stories starting back in South America at the beginning of the year can you tell us why South America is pretty fucked up for fucking?

**Speaker 0:** Yeah this was quite a funny story so it was medishing in Colombia and it was evening it wasn't late I think it was I don't know 08:00 something like that and I just decided to take a stroll and see this hot girl go over speak to her seems pretty on suggest we have a beer she's keen go to a bar have a beer then we go to another bar closer to my apartment. This is all it's all just giving me all like good signs so far I'm thinking this this looks like should be a good same day lay she's hot so we're at the bar start making out just sat in the street at this bar and then she starts to just just be a little bit strange like she's going from like super keen to like not keen at all again like green light red light I'm like hey what's going on and then she's like oh you just you just spoke to me because I'm hot you know like shit tests like oh you know this is yeah I'm like just passing all this fine blah blah and then she's going from hot to cold hot to cold hot to cold every now and then we'd make out and then she's getting really hot and then she says where's your apartment I'm like it's just over there and she's she's keen to go back I say come on let's go back to the apartment like pay pay the bill quick as I can start walking back to the apartment and now we're getting it's only maybe sixty second ninety second walks close right obviously it's just by sheer chance so we get twenty seconds of the walk she just suddenly stops like no this is wrong. I'm like that's fine just relax like you know and she's like oh you just want to me because I'm hot and attractive and young and like she wasn't even that young she lied at her 21 and I'm just like anyway I'm passing these tests and then I realised that kissing her was like I just say come here and I start kissing her and then she was just like super on grabbing me like pulling my hair in the streets like come on let's go let's go so get her to the apartment and we've had two or three episodes like that on the way anyway get in the apartment and I just chill out first I go to the toilet she sits down get us a little drink start chatting then we start making out end up in the bedroom and it's all good now it's just like on on on she says to me have you got condoms I say yes best line right it's the final line great geez I get a condom we're naked in bed have you got condoms yes put a condom on it's all good I just have just put your money on it go put your money on it take your meds nothing can go wrong and then so I'm just about to penetrate her and then she just suddenly like very seriously like why am I here what do you want and I'm like I just look at say I want to you and then she just fucking spazes out she's like you're disgusting and I'm just like woah

**Speaker 1:** and I was like you just told me to poke on that one and she's just like you're disgusting this is terrible

**Speaker 0:** we hardly know each other like all the kind of shit text material but fucking yeah dialed up to to crazy level and then I just stand up and then I'm like look if I'm that disgusting just get out and she's I'm going stormed out of the apartment. We joked that she's crazy but she is crazy. She was crazy yeah. So day or two later she text me apologising saying sorry for my behaviour blah blah blah blah. I was like alright so I text her what you're up to today and she's like well I have an appointment with my psychotherapist. Like oh okay. Yeah that was a

**Speaker 1:** Yeah classic South American story. So you need balls of steel here frame polarity fuck me reminds me of Russia And that links nicely onto story number two where again you suddenly everything's going well and suddenly you are faced with dominance

**Speaker 0:** of a weird kind. Yeah. Lots of failure stories there. Screwed. Screwed. So I was back in South America and I've met this girl who I'd met like a week before and then I'd flown off somewhere else and then I came back. Took her out. She's quite hot. It all seems quite good. Take her to a bar. Do my hand thing get in good compliance so I suggest go back to the apartment we go back it's fine start making out in the bedroom it's all going good and I thought this is straightforward and then she starts to get very aggressive. She starts biting me like not little bites like painful fucking bites like biting my chest and I'm just at first when she's mildly getting aggressive I'm like matching it and you know pulling her hair harder it's like but this is just making her worse she's getting more and I'm like fuck and I'll just tell her look to chill the fuck out just yeah just chill fuck out and she's like turning into this monster which just doesn't turn me on and then I carried on and carried on and it was just getting to the point where I'm just thinking do I just I don't know if I want this anymore and then she's just like if you don't me in the next two minutes I'm going and I was like do you know what just go now and she's like looked at me like she's naked in my bed and she's just like what? I was like yeah just go.

**Speaker 1:** If you're a beginner I'd call you a wanker but I can totally understand this sums up There's something wrong with that level of female dominance. I don't like it. I think men that are into that weird dominate trick stuff,

**Speaker 0:** lunchtime in Manhattan going and get themselves spanked. That's fucking weird. Some some guys would love it. Yeah. But for me, it's just not a turn on at all. But after she left, I did sort of question myself for a minute or two. I thought, am I crazy? Like, I just had a naked girl in my bed that was hot and I told her to leave. Well, I but I I quite quickly thought, no. Actually, I'm You've got abundance. If you hadn't got abundance, you'd have fucked her. Yeah. This is the difference again. You've got lot of dozens. So no. No. No. No. Bye bye.

**Speaker 1:** Finish with something happier. Guys, thinking, fuck now. He's he's had a psycho. Yeah. He hasn't had good year We're not telling you the lays because they're never really good stories as I say in below the belt a lay is just the number closer dated her fucked her this Lay because it is a lay this lay story I've never heard before I've never experienced this kind of lay. I've never heard of a daygamer do this. So maybe this is a world first. Fire away, Ian, with this

**Speaker 0:** South American lay story. Okay. Well, it's actually it's definitely not a world first because I know a guy that did do this fairly recently yeah. Okay so it's a growing trend so this is the new thing Tom you're lagging behind So okay so it was the day after I told that girl to leave the apartment actually and it was my last night in the city and I was just I wasn't in a mood to do any game I wasn't haven't gone out to do any daygame I was just going to a market to look at rings and you know maybe buy some jewelry whatever So I book an Uber and Uber driver turns up and it's a girl. Thought that's surprising it's quite rare and not only was she a female but she was hot. So I was like this is interesting. But I didn't really think more of it. Just got in the car. She spoke some English, start having a bit of a chat, asked her if she's been to Europe. I've told her at this point I'm leaving tomorrow. She knows I'm leaving the city the next day, which is a counterintuitive thing. A lot of guys would think that that would fuck it up, but, of course, it doesn't. She says, yes. She's been to Europe, blah blah blah. She's been to Russia. I said, oh, I've got a a Russian girlfriend.

**Speaker 1:** Again counterintuitive that is. What? You're telling her what? Says the nice guy. Yeah but obviously pre selection so it's doing the complete

**Speaker 0:** opposite. So it's a good sign but it's you know it's there's nothing that's a little bit of teasing. I tease her a little bit but it's not there's nothing really saying it's on apart from one point where she says she loves the English accent. So I was like okay she likes my accent. So drives coming to an end it's like twenty twenty five minute Uber trip and I've decided okay I'm gonna I'm gonna try a number closer when I get out. So I'm getting out and I just said listen let's stay in touch. You got WhatsApp or Facebook? And she's like oh yeah both. I was like I'll take your number. So I took her number and I didn't really think that much more of it at that point I went to the market blah blah blah and then later on that evening just dropped her a text simple text and I was telling her bought something at the market and she's replied blah blah blah simple text back and forth. I asked her how she spends her evenings she said asked me what I was up to said had gone out for a meal but now I was back at my flat drinking wine she then asked me if my flight next day was early. So that for me was that okay. Is this is on. So then I said let's go for a drink. She says I would like to. She came to right outside my apartment, took her to the bar opposite, one drink, hands. It was very on very quickly with the hands. She asked me some questions about my girlfriend that I'd mentioned in the car. I didn't back away from it. I didn't I didn't say, oh, you know, she's not really my girl because I don't have

**Speaker 1:** a girlfriend. I don't have an excuse. That a lot though this year, and I've I've learned that from you actually. Like, one last night just to chip in, but it's an important point. Girls, I've noticed for years, girls look at you puppy eyes at some point often in just before sex and go, do do you have a wife? Now then the beginner, the nice guy, the old me goes, no. No. No. No. No. I'm really single. I like being single. And the new me kinda smiles and goes, not what? No. You know? One, two, three, I don't know. Six, seven. Yeah. And they they want you to. And that's fucked up. Why does she want you to have a wife and kids? It's because, she just wants you to fuck. She doesn't wanna be your girlfriend. She doesn't she doesn't want you to be a chode. And if you've got a wife and you're leaving the next day or you got a girlfriend rather, you've said it all year to girls, haven't you? I have a girlfriend and that makes them hornier. Yeah. Yeah. Because they want they wanna be the lover. They want they want to cheat. There was one in Middle Europe where she had a boyfriend. You pretended to have a girlfriend, and it improves your sex life. Anyway, I'm chipping in, that's an important shit test, guys. Don't back down as Ian said and smile. Cocky. Agree and amplify never say that you're single and lonely fucking hell I know one guy you know one guy who says he's single and tragically lonely

**Speaker 0:** but yeah so I didn't back away from it told her a bit about my girlfriend and then it was a simple bounce back she'd already knew I was drinking some wine she knew I was leaving the next day let's go and finish my bottle of wine otherwise it's gonna get poured down the sink. Which is true. Yeah okay so back she came and it was very straightforward from there and it got very messy. But it's weird blood. Not period blood. Just aggressive sex or? Oh, I didn't want oh, yeah. I mean, she said she hadn't had sex for like, I don't know, five months or something and yeah it was quite a messy affair. I was walking into the bathroom after we banged the first time and I was like okay there's a bit of blood and then about half an hour later we banged again and then there was a lot of blood yeah.

**Speaker 1:** And I heard the Airbnb host wasn't pleased. Not too pleased. No. But glorious. There we go. We're gonna have to leave it there. We are coming up to thirty minutes and just to tie things together, I will I've been posting more on my newly designed newly optimized website it's very mobile friendly I'm enjoying blogging for the first time ever I will be doing videos but anyway last night not to brag just to say that it was so glorious and unexpected I perhaps had my best lay of the year I'll have to think about whether it was the best sex of the year but it was certainly she was really hot and it was it was good game and there was some technical stuff in there simple it simple but I'll put it on my blog and then I'll get back on the videos but anyway cheers to Ian for podcast a 120 next time I see you will be in probably somewhere near Russia or somewhere chilly but I'll see you in Japan. Ian and I are if Japan still exists, we shall, put out some videos because sadly the guy I normally go with Tim, captain Tim, good mate of mine, he will probably be in China. He's got a job in China. Good on him for his Chinese hustling And I don't think he's allowed that time away in November. But we shall think of you, Tim, if you're listening to this podcast. But anyway, Occam's Razor, keep it simple stupid. Alright? I'm gonna tie up with this example. Two trees have fallen down during a windy night. There are two explanations you could have. Alright? Maybe you've read them on the Internet. Explanation number one, the wind has blown them down. Explanation number two, which you probably read on a pickup forum. Two meteorites have each taken one tree down and after they hit each other after that hit each other and then removed mysteriously, magically any trace of themselves. You might be sold that by a pickup company or a textbook called street hustle. No. I try to keep it simple. Which one's the most fucking obvious? Right? So when you're diagnosing your own problems or your mates diagnosing them and you're listening to yourself and you're thinking why isn't she attracted? Why isn't this date going very well? As we often know with guys, why didn't we have sex? Look yourself in the fucking mirror and say, what's the simplest explanation? Are you massively overweight? Do you look like shit? Have you not cleaned your teeth? Here's some more common ones. You put yourself in the friend's room. It's fucking obvious. Right? Your voice is too quiet. It's so obvious. You supplicated. It's so obvious. I bet on the date you supplicated. Now on the date, I diagnose every Skype call like this. Did you escalate? And he says no. There you go. That's Occam's Razor. On the internet you're gonna fucking read did you do the cube? Did you do this? Oh, it was because of your shoes. Oh, man. You gotta get this haircut. Right? Oh, you didn't disqualify then DH free then multi stack and then back to I'm like, mate, did you ask her to come home with you? Not really. Or even worse, she's in your house and the guy goes, I I don't know what happened. And you say, well, did you get her on the bed? Did you get your dick out? No. Well there you go. Occam's Razor. Disregard a lot of pickup shit after you filtered through it. Obviously not a street hustle. Because that is Occam's Razor. I've tried to take all the daygamer knowledge and boil it down I'll leave it there because we've gone over half an hour and iTunes doesn't like it Thank you Iain, adios, hasta la vego, gracias, senors I will speak to you back in Autumnal Europe, but from South America. Adios.