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# Episode 152 Sin City Stories

**Speaker 0:** Thomas Dorero podcast, a 152 on Sin City Stories from Praha. I was going to say it's a threesome, but it's a four way. So you're getting ideas already. Four men in a room. It's a completely straight podcast. We will be discussing filthy cities and filthy stories. And two of the voices you'll recognize, one of them especially, we did a podcast called Filth. Very popular podcast from Where were we? In an airport somewhere? In an airport, mate. LA. It was extremely filthy. So you can listen to that podcast on filth. And the other guest you'll recognize because it was another filthy podcast called

**Speaker 2:** what was it called? Troy Francis? Oh, what was it called? It was about loads of filthy stuff though, wasn't it? Yeah. Well, I'll I'll find it. Yes. It was oh, it will come to me in a minute, but, it was very filthy. It will come all over you. But Indeed.

**Speaker 0:** So there we go. There's already two two, filthy podcasts out there. We aim to add another one in Burkowski style. Charles Burkowski used to write a column called notes of a dirty old man. And I was gonna call this podcast notes of a dirty old man, but, I'm not the oldest in the room. Thank fuck for that. We got we got Craig Cassidy here who is how old Craig?

**Speaker 1:** 19. No. I'm 32 next month. 32.

**Speaker 0:** This month, actually. God, you know, 52, man. 32. 32. 32. Yeah. We've got Troy Francis in the room. 21.

**Speaker 2:** Forever 21? 44,

**Speaker 0:** I'm afraid. What? 44. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Well, this is good stuff. And we've got mister f. Yeah. From The United States Of America. God bless The USA. Indeed. Frank Washington DC and I will be 42 this year.

**Speaker 1:** Sounds like the intro. Yeah. One of those.

**Speaker 2:** Oh, we just said like Alcoholics Anonymous when you go around the table. Hello. My name is Tom and I'm an I I combined ages then. Must I mean, could somebody add it up? Somebody do it with me too? Because we that's a a lot of game experience there, isn't it? It's like a 150 something? No. More.

**Speaker 0:** Around there. Experience in a room around a table in Prague in The Czech Republic, which is called the Dark City. If you look into Prague, I know you probably think it's all squeaky clean and you've been and you've seen the clock and you've gone around with your mom or your girlfriend and you think, Prague's very nice. There's many layers to Prague and obviously in the early nineties and before that, it was as seedy as, places like Times Square in New York in the eighties and Berlin And and it's still got it. You have to look for it in Prague, but it's still got it. And if you do daygame, if you do gutter game, Prague is magic. As soon as the sun goes down, it gets a really filthy vibe, even in the old town square. So we'll talk about that. But look into Prague, look into Franz Kafka, look into Milan Kundera. Kundera. Yeah. The Unbearable Lightness of Being is a book written about the dark nature of Prague. And getting pissed here, you probably know about Absinthe. It is a dark city. It's got something about it. So that's on our list for today. Right. Sin City stories. We'll begin with Craig because you've got a lot of Prague stories, but one literally happened forty eight hours ago, twenty four hours ago. Yeah. In a gutter game session. And this is not the one that's on the blog. You're thinking, I've read this one before. No, this happened a couple of days ago.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. So randomly, I'm here teaching and we were out doing some gutter game, weren't we? Or we planned me and mister f planned to do some gutter game. We were strolling through Old Town Square, and then lo and behold, I bump into these two creepy old men randomly. We didn't know that we we were in the city. I didn't know that these guys were in the city. So I kind of got a game session, got postponed a bit, and we went to some underground

**Speaker 0:** Golden Shower. Golden

**Speaker 1:** Shower. Yeah. Golden Tree. Golden Tree. It has a kind of nugget of information. Yeah. So it's kinda like this weird underground

**Speaker 0:** how would you describe it? It's not really a strip club. It's Yeah. It tends to be a bar, but it's a CD Yeah. I'm into strip club.

**Speaker 1:** So, anyway, yeah, couple of beers in there, and we said our goodbyes. And then we went to hit the streets, didn't we? We did. Did a few approaches out on the main shopping street. The vibe was still a bit too Too early. Too early. A bit too much like daygames still. There's still a lot of families and people milling about, which I know Tom loves.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. That's my take. Oh. What's that? Just told you a dark city. There you go. Ghosts. So eighties, this apartment, by the way. Like, something from UO trash, isn't it?

**Speaker 1:** Oh, you should see the the the bulb in my room. It's, like, pink. So at night, it looks like a broth. Yeah. Just it's like a pink glove. We should have recorded it with a pink bulb, shouldn't we, together for So we're the

**Speaker 2:** is singing. This is singing. It's pretty singing.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. How do you know when gutter game begins? Well, I mean, you're feeling. Is it sort of feeling in the It's an intuit it's

**Speaker 1:** hard to explain. It's an intuition for me. It's it's I feel the vibe change. Yeah. Weirdly, I can be out at, say, like, 10PM and and know that it's not the right time yet. And then an hour later, it's completely different. I wanna say it's when the sun drops, but that's not always the case. You're right. Families go. Tourists kinda go.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. People are wandering aimlessly.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. And I think that the the low light helps, like, glisten eyes, big eyes. And so when I'm stopping girls, generally, I'm giving them these big kind of eyes. It's hard to really hard for me to to describe it, but it's just a feeling that I've got from years of doing it, I guess. But it was definitely too early when we were out. So I suggested that we go and grab another drink, wait an hour, and then go out. So we went to one of these seedy I say seedy, but it's a bit tacky backpackery bar called is it cinnabar? One club. One club. Cinebar. I don't know where it's Cinebar. Cinebar. Yeah. One club. It's like a right before you get to old town, it's like this backpacker kind of bar. And we were in there at the bar, and Frank points out a lonely little blonde girl in the corner, and she was sat all alone. And I thought you told me to do it, and he's putting his middle finger up to me. In my mind, you told me to demo. Oh, yeah. This is always in his mind. Oh, yeah. But, anyway, you went to the bathroom, I think. I went over there. Basically, I opened her. Within a few minutes, she she told me that well, I found out that she was there alone, which is kinda like a gift from god. Wow. 19 year old Finnish girl. Having a drink. Having a drink just on her own. Just been sightseeing. My lion the lion's den. And I kind of, at this point, look up at the sky and mouth, thank you. Yeah. Invite myself to sit down. She she said, yeah. Then I had to kind of sell Frank out and say that he was off home, which I apologize. I was shortly after. I did look around. I did look around and you've gone. Just the seat was swiveling around like

**Speaker 0:** old wedges. I met Frank just to interlude, I met Frank maybe an hour or so later standing lonely by a sausage stand with a a beer in his hand looking up in the sky. Staring just staring from all the other sources. Just just saying why. Why? Why? Sorry. But we we are.

**Speaker 1:** We did. Yeah. So, yeah, we finished the drink in there, and I bounced her. It was pretty easy. She had nothing to do, so I bounced her to this date venue that I'd gone to the previous night with a girl that I met here last time, which is on your blog, that lay report from your blog. So I've seen a seen a girl from last time as well. Anyway, I took this this Finnish girl to this this underground bar. It's really cool. They have, like, live piano. It's very dark in there, candlelight cocktails, that kind of stuff. And then she started opening up in there about being from a very conservative family, not that much experience with guys and that her parents were very, very strict, and they would she had had sex before, but her they she said her parents would kill her if she knew. Especially with you. Yeah. Yeah. Which She does sound like a high quality girl. Then. She a marriage material. She was lovely. Yeah. She was lovely. But she had this really cheeky dark streak to her that I could see. She you'd look at her and most guys would go, oh, that's, you know, a nice girl. Yeah. You know, she's short, sweet, blonde, like, high giggly voice, but I could see there was some kind of mischievous child in there. And that kind of came out after a few drinks. He started playing silly buggers, being all, like just giving me lots of shit. But I knew it was on. Like, we got to a phase where I was asking her about her exes and stuff, and she dated just this guy that her parents had kind of vetted for her. So anyone that's been doing this a while knows that if if a girl's had a very reserved upbringing that if they're in a city alone like this, they're looking for adventure. I knew it was just a case of biding my time. Yeah. Creating a bit of rapport with her. And then, yeah, we the bounce was pretty easy. Back here, she just turned into this ball of crazy fucking energy, and it was Oh, yeah. Tiny little body. It was amazing. It was amazing. Tom's here. Yeah. It was it was it was it was fucking amazing. And, yeah, she stayed the night and I banged her again in the morning and then sent her on her way and

**Speaker 0:** no contact. Imagine a conversation with her, mom and dad, and they go, how was Prague? Yeah. It's really I saw the clock, and I saw Yeah. I saw the clock. I saw I saw some clock. Saw some clock cock. But I love the I love the fact that she didn't even

**Speaker 1:** she didn't even opt to, like, wanna exchange details for her. Was purely Secret society. Yeah. She got it out of her system. Yeah. Or rather into the system. Yeah. And it was it was a I wanna say it was a case of right place, right time, but there was still some game needed. She was I think an inexperienced guy would have fallen into a frame a little bit because, you know Taking her out clubbing is the usual mistake. Yeah. Let's go clubbing. Okay. You know? And you know how, like, crazy nine little 19 year old girls can be. They should have gone the whole night. Yeah. So but there there was some game needed, but all in all, it was a it was a gift from god, really. I mean, if ever you see a girl drinking alone in a bar and you don't open, you're a you're a bit of a silly boy. But, yeah, that was kind of my story.

**Speaker 0:** I'm persuading, Craig. I don't know if it'll happen, but we'll either write something about gutter game or film something about a gutter game cause I've not met a daygamer who's better at gutter game than Craig Cassidy. That's not blowing smoke up your ass. It's just Craig's niche. Thank you. So if you're into that kind of neon, noir, extra filthy flavor of daygame, we need to document it because it's very hard to describe and there are big differences from daygame and dating and texting. But anyway, it's a perfect city to do that in and what a memory for that girl, you know, because Prague has got that dirty side and she met a dirty guy and she'll remember that forever, man. Yeah. It was awesome, man. It was awesome. Bloody good. And we were just saying before we hit record, Craig doesn't keep, like, track of numbers and stuff, but it would be ridiculous if you crunched your numbers from world tour to now. It's so I would say It's beautiful, you know? I would say

**Speaker 1:** one in one lay per 10 approaches and that's being generous as well. I think on the world tour is one in two. Yeah. And you're having time off doing, like, normal life stuff? Yeah. So, like, guys probably haven't seen me put out a lot of stuff recently, and that's not because I'm not active and not doing stuff. It's so I'm I'm just being less public facing this year for other reasons. He's working in McDonald's, by the way. Yeah. In Bristol. Yeah. I'm actually, I've joined a monastery. That's why the notch counts are really high. They'd be very upset if they knew this kind of stuff. No. But you're still you are you've done a lot of coaching in resies. And Yeah. Yeah. I'm still coaching and I and I I find that it's it make it's a little bit happier for me. I I don't run around doing crazy stuff now. Approach off intuition generally, and I guess that's why my success rate is so good.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. You've become very efficient. Yeah. You're the Ian of 2018, which is which is very good. Right. Let's keep it about sin cities with Frank, mister f. Can I call you for it? Yes. Can. You

**Speaker 1:** I'll keep that in. Yeah.

**Speaker 0:** I can beep it out. But alright. With Frank, and because you're our American at the table, can you name some can you go over just a little bit of the filthy history? Because I know it's kinda cleaned up now and sanitized and very conservative, but but can you still find filth in America? Well, you can. We've been to Vegas, but can you tell us some of the Yeah. Because it's in it's it's it's in Europe, obviously, but what's the background? And then add in one of your beautifully filthy stories. A testimony to being 40 in your early forties when you did it. Yeah. Over to Frank. Cool.

**Speaker 3:** So, I mean, in terms of filth, there's places where obviously people go to escape, whether it's for bachelorettes and stuff like that. Vegas is a big one. I would say in my experience, Miami is a city and Florida in general is a place where people move to get away from their one: normal lives or normal identities. And you can do stuff there that you just can't do in the rest of The US, like drinking in public and smoking weed on the streets, although now that type of thing is becoming more legal elsewhere. Street walkers. Yeah. I mean, I I Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can certainly find street walkers, you know, which you don't see in a lot of US cities if you're looking for that. You know, something like swinging is much more tolerated and, even went to a swingers club eons ago in Miami and it was very publicly advertised. It wasn't anything that was hidden away. New Orleans is that type of place, you know, obviously there's Mardi Gras and again, like a lot of people go there for bachelorettes and bachelor parties, but just, you know, to get plastered and Yeah. And to for some easy sex because people are in a party mode when they go there, they're ready if that's what they're up for. New York in the eighties, nineties? I think New York is always crazy. It still is. And it truly is a a party that doesn't stop. You know, obviously, the prices have gone through the roof. I mean, in the eighties, it was it was dirty. It was dangerous, really dangerous, chaotic, like the number of murders and rapes and robberies was through the roof. But there was also that really cool edginess of a city like Berlin or something like that. Tons of artists, everybody was hanging out. Could go to a club and see Madonna or see Basquiat or somebody like that and obviously drugs and Studio fifty four, but New York is is always because it is a melting pot and a meeting point like London, you're gonna have a lot of just random incredible experiences, which is why there's coaches there and good residentials and stuff like that. Mean, so I'm 41 now. I'll be 42 this summer, but a couple years ago when I was just starting to dip my toes into what is game, but had no clue what I was doing. This wasn't in New York, was it? No. This was. It was? Yeah. I was just there for a weekend doing a meeting up with a couple of friends, doing a little bit of sightseeing. And I had gotten there early in the afternoon. I was near Chelsea and I went for a jog and I see what I thought was like a gorgeous, say 22 year old. She had sort of like this beautiful Mediterranean sort of Sophia Loren look and I was just like, fuck it, I'm gonna go up to her. So I said some first thing that came to my head which was like, how can you be alone? You're so good looking, very cheesy. And she said, I'm not, this is my aunt. And she points to this woman in her 50s who happened to be doing some nanny work. This is a Latina woman and I speak Spanish, I just started chatting with her in Spanish and the aunt was charmed by me and she said, why don't you two go off and have a coffee? Oh, I'm scared. Yeah. Sweetie. Yeah. And I was in my running shorts, my running shirt was a little sweaty, but this girl that sort of gave me a stamp of approval from the aunt, right, and the fact that I spoke Spanish and so on. Turns out this girl is half Guatemalan, half Argentinian, beautiful, beautiful face, body, and she'd never been with a guy before. And it was she was there on holiday visiting her on and she was actually praying, she told me, to meet an older guy who would take her virginity. I mean, she told me this later, but she, you know, just never been with a guy. Very conservative family, very controlling, very dominating and very repressive, you know, and she had just been fantasizing about this. Within about twenty minutes, we started making out because of the energy that was just incredible. We we were going on this little bubble adventure, right, where we're just walking around Chelsea, the piers, holding hands and I sit her down when she told me she's never kissed a guy. We just start making out. And she was only 18, so I was I got a little freaked out when she told me that. But You you I was 38 at the time. Yeah. 39 maybe. Yeah. And we made out for, like, three hours, you know, just this incredible date bubble. I faded. I pulled away a bit because after she told me her age, I got a little freaked out, and my mates got a little freaked out when I told them. But she started texting me and following up with me, and then we just created this fantasy. I started texting her about things I wanted to do, and she was, you know, hook, line, and sinker. We started having phone sex, and then next thing you know, we make a plan to have sex. And that went over several days. You know, she was a virgin. She was so tight. Pardon the vulgarity description here. No. That's what That's what they're all thinking. And it was honestly, it was incredible. It went a little bit off the deep end. We dated long distance for, like, a year, roughly. Naughty boy. And we would go to these sex motels with Jacuzzis and, you know, mirrors on the on the ceiling and shed and it was heaven, you know? But it was crazy in the sense that it was a lot of energy, a lot of investment. And I started to be a little controlling and a little needy with her and she started to get I think probably a little ready to go travel the world which she eventually did. But it was tremendous. Mentioning what you said about this Finnish girl and Craig and that girl having experience. I think I honestly think I this girl, I gave her an incredible first sexual experience and first love experience. She was very in love at first. Yeah. And it was a great introduction. But yeah, it was it was pornographic.

**Speaker 0:** It was it was heavenly. What you do think about the the European CD vibe? Because we were talking about our lunchtime. You said it's different. Yeah. I mean,

**Speaker 3:** it just that it's much more relaxed and much more tolerant, you know? Everybody here is, you know, drinking at ten, 11AM. It's not a big It's not I mean, are like the stag dos and those are a little obnoxious, but it's just things in The States are much more Puritan and much more black or white. I haven't truly seen felt like seediness here, but I would just say much more tolerance, much more relaxed attitude. You go into a coffee shop, mean like even just like a little deli's corner store and they're all advertising all these products with marijuana in them and so on. There's a lot of advertising with naked chicks and stuff like that. It's just a lot more laid back. And just one point, you know, hearing Craig talk about the different bars, like, it's really an easy city to do dates in because if you're in the old part and the center part because you'll just have like bar after bar next to each other and you can do really easy venue one, venue two, and then back to your flat well within, you know, a 100 meters or something like that. And the bars here are extremely cool, funky, and they create a vibe that you don't have to create.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. City I've there isn't a city like this. I've and believe you me, I've tried looking for them. Prague has this magical thing where whatever you're doing, if it's got a game or daygame, you just wander around with a bird and then you buy like a little lane or you buy a river, then you buy the castle. I've dated I just dated was on a date now with a girl in the park next to the castle. And you look down, you're like, fuck me. It does all the work for you, you know? That's why couples come here on holiday. I've done a holiday like that. I think you've done a few. Yeah. Have you been to Prague with a bird on a romantic trip? Craig did a couple of hours without finishing it. But yeah, it's pretty dull actually. If you come as a couple, it's pretty dull in it. We were talking about this like you got to do the river, you got to the museum. It's a bit boring. But for lovers and for sex and for the bubble. Prague, I mean Vienna's close, Berlin's probably close. Barcelona's pretty cool. New York is endlessly cool. So magic. The chicken's magic in Harlem. Yeah. Craig Craig loves Harlem and he represents daygame. Good luck. Go go and take him in Harlem. Mr. F-

**Speaker 3:** Add some more stuff. No. I mean, I I don't know much about this. You know, you I'm still the beginner, the learner. But when you're in the the secret society bubble, everything becomes dirty and naughty and seedy. So with this 18 year old, we would go to a movie theater. I'd be fingering her in the movie theater. You know, we would go to, like, a shopping mall and we would just bang in the car in the parking lot because we were so horny. And this is in shitty suburban America where it's boring and it's, it's one fucking chain and mall after another. It's going on all the time. It's going on all the fucking time. She loved anything that was in public or that had an element of subtlety, indiscretion and naughtiness all at the same time.

**Speaker 0:** This just links to this. Craig found a venue, we'll give it away. Craig found a venue in Los Angeles, which was up there with the world's top three venues. I'm not gonna give away my two filthy venues, but this was fucking made for filth. Remember, was it was a few streets away from us. We don't even know the name. I don't remember the name, but It's one back from Hollywood Boulevard, wouldn't it? One down. At the end where it starts, think, you know, who's the first star in the Hollywood Walk Of Fame, the Beatles. One like, you should know this American. Come on. Yeah. But just down from there was I can't remember the name, but basically, you saw that it's neon entrance in, you know, imagine like

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Bates Motel. It was so Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you see like the So tacky. This neon sign and you walk through this kind of, little corridor thing and there's always really old TVs and stuff playing old films and then you go through this curtain and, there's just wall to wall porn and porn playing on the TVs and stuff. So straight away before you've entered the the bar, the vibe's been set.

**Speaker 0:** And whether they know, do they think that do they know that it's, like, intentionally cheap and seedy, or is it just cheap and seedy? A bit of both. Yeah. A bit of both. It's like a pizza shop. There's like a dry cleaners and a chicken shop underneath. You know? It's so motel. In the bar, it's actually really nice. Yeah. Posh. Yeah. And it

**Speaker 1:** quite of a posh crowd. It's just a nice little touch before you got in there. Yeah. Like, just to make a little joke of it as well was

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Are you ready for this? You're good girl. Can I cover your eyes? Yeah. And I think I shielded the girl's eyes. This is not for you. This is not for you. What would your mother say? Brilliant. Brilliant bar. Yeah. Yeah. Write your suggestions below, but there's one in Warsaw, which is phenomenal and, there's one in London. Troy Francis is our London filth expert for venues, but there's some classic ones. Moving on to Troy Francis, can you first give an this is so academic this round the table. It's like Richard Dawkins talking to Meghan. Like symposium. Yeah. Yeah. Hitchens and Dawkins. A historical overview of cities known for filth in Europe. You know, you you you gravitate to Berlin, but Yes. I was surprised when you told me all about Vienna and a Prague's one.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Barcelona and its grimy days, dangerous grimy days. Yeah. I mean, I think there's, you know, there's a lot of filth around Europe generally. And I mean, the the main one, like you say, the main one that really, think I a lot of people gravitate to is Berlin because it's always had that kind of slightly seedy aspect to it from the from the days of the Weimar Republic really you know the 1920s with the cabaret bars and everything yeah yeah exactly all that kind of stuff and, you know, taking laudanum and opium and all this kind of stuff. You know? So Berlin's always had that kind of licentious feel to it, you know, that history. Is that why you chose it as a base? Yeah. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, I've I've always had this kind of fascination with with Berlin. And as we've said before, it's not it's not necessarily the best place certainly for day game. I think the the night game is is good there because the nightlife's so crazy. But but I was fascinated with it for other reasons really. It's just it's always had that kind of fascinating history. Loads of, like, great artists have lived there. Like, David Bowie was there, Iggy Pop, you know, U2 recorded an album there. Depeche Mode recorded a couple of their albums there. Nick Cave lived there. So in a in a rock history sense, you know, it's got this massive thing. And but yeah. I mean, like I was saying saying before, the the cino, I mean, it just blew my head off really the first time I went. It was just crazy some of the stuff there. But Vienna as well. You know, Vienna's got quite a quite a naughty history. So, you know, there's a my friend, if you go on Twitter, you know the guy Ernst Graf.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. He's he's a poetic guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Point that out because he's not a gamer. He's whether he knows about game, I don't know. But he's so honest about banging hookers. And his whole thing is about

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. His his obsession with filth, isn't it? Yeah. Absolutely. So if on Twitter, he's called, Marquis de Chad, I think. He changes his name sometimes, but his his handle is Ernst Graff. I've interviewed him a couple of times. I interviewed him in my last book, which is about strip clubs. He's but he's just exactly. But he's just a really interesting writer of people, you know. I mean, as as Tom said, he's not a game guy, but he is a really great writer about travel and particularly about dirty, naughty travel. Yeah. But Kraussky would have loved him. He just doesn't give a fuck. He's like, this is how it is. Yeah. This is how I fuck. This is my obsession with fucking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, basically, he goes to I mean, Berlin's one of his places. Vienna is another one. So through him, I learned a bit about the the red light district in Vienna.

**Speaker 0:** Budapest, would you say? I know for porn. Hungary

**Speaker 2:** is Well, Budapest isn't one of Ernst's places. Although he did he does go there. I'm reading his journals at the moment. This is the second volume, and he does go to Budapest actually. But it's not one of his main places. But for me, yeah, Budapest. I I was seeing a girl over there last year.

**Speaker 0:** In Budapest?

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. In Budapest. Yeah. I went a few times and we went to a few seedy places. We went to a kind of a sex shop where, there were video cabins at the back, which was quite interesting. And we went to where else do we go? Certainly, I know there's kind of a BDSM type scene there because she was involved with that. So she was going to parties there and things like that. Look at the amount of porn that comes out there. There must be a you know? Yeah. I've had other day with students.

**Speaker 0:** I've I only want to student check. I won't say his name. But before he got into daygame, he was he had the harem of hookers and he'd been seeing them for, ten years. So it it actually built up relationships. He was paying them, but it was and they were but it was a weird like gray area and they were fucking hot and they were, you know, webcam porn stars.

**Speaker 2:** Right. Yeah. I'm digressing. Budapest got yeah. It's definitely got a seedy side to it. And you've got those fantastic, like, sauna type pool things as well. So you got the pool parties there as well, I wanna check out this summer. Yeah. Yeah. But it's got a great feeling to it, hasn't it, Budapest? It's got like lots of there's there's still quite a sex industry there. There's still yeah, so it's kind of it's quite down bits. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exact exactly. That's the tad, isn't it? That's the tell. Yeah. I think so. It was kind of it was interesting what Craig was saying actually because the thing about an atmosphere in a city, I think, is really important. And sometimes when you've got a city that's a little bit naughty or a little bit dirty, then that atmosphere kind of permeates into the game as well. Definitely. So bars and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So even someone like Berlin, like a lot of people go to Berlin, you know, because they kinda wanna have a bit of a naughty experience. They kinda wanna do something a little bit a little bit, you know Yeah. Out of the ordinary. So if you're there as somebody who's doing game, then that really gives you that does you a favor because the atmosphere is sort of a bit a little bit naughty. We'll go on and link us to

**Speaker 0:** in the last podcast, it was all about fat ish BDSM stuff, but this one is corrupting an innocent mind in Berlin, is it? Was she innocent to start with?

**Speaker 2:** So my friend, Anastasia, who's from Russia, who'll probably listen to this site. I've got Are you saying it? Yes. Absolutely. We

**Speaker 0:** had a conversation before about it. You were just saying? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Hello, Anastasia. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Let's say let's yeah. Let's say yeah. I called her an Let's say Anya or Anastasia. But anyway, she she's from Russia. She I don't I don't know the the extent of her depravity before coming to Berlin, but I think she was relatively she was certainly very interested to to check out the nightlife in Berlin and the different For research as Frank says. Yeah. Exactly. The diff the different sort of, you know, like nightlife haunts and stuff like that. I think she was she she certainly had an interest in that sort of area, but I don't know the extent to which she'd been to the to the parties and and stuff. Come on, man. What did you do? So we had a whole we had a whole kind of week of debauchery in Berlin, which was a a lot of fun. So I met her in Saint Petersburg, and then she came over to to visit in Berlin. And we had we basically had a whole week of just going to different sort of crazy venues together and enjoying the the fruits of them, which was which was a lot of fun. So the first thing that we went to because she said to me, I'm very I want to go to the to explore the nightlife in Berlin. And she said, and if we're gonna do it, I wanna go to the most extreme places, which is fair enough. So the first place we went to was Insomnia, which is a quite famous club in Berlin for, you know, fetish swingers parties and that kind of stuff. And we went on the Wednesday, and it was a BDSM party. They they only had the cellar open, so the rest of the club was all closed. And we went down into the basement, and we saw some very,

**Speaker 0:** very strange sights down there. Was this the one with the the guy in the back? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** That is very German. You can imagine this in Germany. I mean, some of the crazy stuff that that we saw is is sort of beggars belief really. And I mean, you know, I hasten to to to add. I mean, we we weren't sort of it's it's kind of weird because you go to a place like this with a girl, it's not that you're you're sort of turned on by the stuff that you see, but it definitely adds a a friss on to to to the thing. But anyway, we we were sitting in the in the barn. We were just kinda waiting to see what happened. And this guy cat comes in, this older guy probably in his fifties, comes in with a bag. Bag. So like this big bag. And we and we heard this kind of clinky as he he was unpacking the bag. And I said to to Anastasia, you know, what's what, you know, what's all that what's what's that? She said, let's go and have a look. So we went into the the room where he was. He was carefully unpacking this bag. Oh, such a lonely image. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We sort of put it taking out these pipe things and this this black sort of piece of, you know, kind of sheeting. And we were looking going, what the what the hell is this? You know? He started sort of constructing this thing, putting this thing together. And it was and we were like, what's he doing? And then and then, basically, it was a black latex bag with these tubes that sort of went into the bag. And then he got into the bag, and there were these two these two ladies wearing sort of dominatrix y outfits who were assisting him. And he gets into the bag, and they connected the bag to a vacuum cleaner and started sucking all the air out of the bag. So the guy was in this Asphyxiation. Yeah. So this guy was kind of in this black latex bag being asphyxiated. And you could see as they suck the air out of the bag, all you could just see all of his body outlined because he was, you know Wasn't David Blaine, was it?

**Speaker 0:** Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. It was it was like a very wrong sort of version of that. And, these ladies then started sort of like, you know, like hitting him with with these riding crop things on different parts of his body. It's all very strange. Shall I go on or do do you think we're we're getting to? No. The guy's on the air. He die? No. He was alive. No. He came off. What happened? He remained he remained alive. There was a there must have been air holes or whatever in this bag for him to obviously to breathe through. Anyway, so that after they after these women have finished hitting him, they they they opened a little a little hole and took his took his penis out. So he's in this black bag and his penis is just sticking out. And one of the ladies starts to pleasure him orally.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Guess like a light choice. Were people hanging around just drinking and drinking?

**Speaker 2:** Just yeah. So me and Anastasia were just sitting at the bar just just having a drink, and other people were just kinda sitting around watching. This is so fucking weird. A weird like bartender, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And about Right. Staring at it. Yeah. You know, there's a there's bit of music playing and, you know, whatever. It's not you know. Anyway, so Weird. Craig's weird, but that is fucking weird. Well, any so anyway, so they sucking they suck the guy off, and he finishes. And then the the dominatrix lady sort of laugh and walk off leaving him in bag. And me and Anastasia just see we're just looking at it, but and he's he's just he's just finished, and his cock is sort of sicky up at at at sort of sort of full fully fully full mask. Yeah. And then slowly, it's slowly, it starts to to to droop. What I'm there for. Yeah. That man's life. Slowly. By day by day, I bet you he works in an office, like Yeah. Yeah. In a accounting office. It was so forlorn though. Just the the slow sort of, you know and then they let him out of bag and everything, and then he he kept very carefully starting to pack up the equipment and

**Speaker 0:** But Kraussky would love that stuff. Yeah. Ridiculous. Ridiculous.

**Speaker 2:** And

**Speaker 0:** that's obviously why you live in Berlin.

**Speaker 2:** Well, I mean, you know, it's I I don't know really. I mean, things like that. What what could you say really? I mean, it's it's crazy. It's weird. It's crazy. But every time I go to Berlin, I see something

**Speaker 0:** like that. And I'm just like, what the what the hell is this? You know? Well, that's But In a way, it's honest, isn't it? That's why you know when people watch Vice documentaries? I'd encourage you to do that now. Go go and look at Vice documentaries. They used to be cool. They've gone slightly weird. And just go to most popular viewed, like rank them. And can you guess what number one is? I told you what number one is. What a guys googling? What are guys watching on vice? You come up, man. You can guess. Fuck. Is it about marijuana or is it about sex dolls? It's about hookers and sex dolls. And then so number one is all sex. Number two is drugs.

**Speaker 1:** Number three is, like, violence. We got that trend in Japan now where the sex doll industry in Japan is booming,

**Speaker 0:** like, absolutely booming. I've I've ordered one. Like,

**Speaker 1:** I mean, one's modeled on me. I

**Speaker 0:** think in Germany, there's now a brothel where you can go with a sex doll. Yeah. I read that. Get one while you're there. Yeah. I read about that. I read about that. I mean, you know, it's Mental. Yeah. It's crazy. So it's But it's human. Yeah? Yeah. And so why people like and why girls used to queue up outside Charles' house Mhmm. As he's an ugly old dude. His wife or his I think his partner would come out and say, can I help you? You know, two hot LA girls. And then why are you here? Oh, we wanna see mister Bukowski. What? For an autograph? No. We wanna fuck him because he's dirty old man. Every week, he wrote a column called notes from a dirty old man. So anyway, just just my chip in for this dirtiness in Czech Republic because, if you're a daygamer, by the way, the Czech Republic is definitely filthier than Poland. I spent a while in Poland and I drove the van into Czech Republic and things started to get very filthy, like not just me wanking in a van. But, this is the weird link. I was watching a few of them vice documentaries for research. Research and one of the ones I clicked on that I knew nothing about, because like you said, unveils a world that you don't know anything about, often like gangs or I was watching one about like the Colombian drug route. And then there's one on furries. Right? Is anybody Oh, Frank. Don't you pretend, mate. You've got one of them suits, right? Yeah. People that dress up as animals. And the first reason they do it is a fetish. The second reason they do it is like cosplay. The third reason they do it is just a bit nerdy, you know, weird. So I watched his documentary and I thought, it's only it's short and I thought that is fucking weird. Like I've never met I've met people that dress up as Star Trek, but I've never met a furry. I arrived in this Czech city. I won't say what it was. I did 10 sets. It was a very productive, thinker. I only did daygirl for one day and she was girl number two. And I stopped her. She was wearing a Beatles t shirt. That was the the in. And I noticed she didn't have a bra on. So when I was staring at her t shirt going, oh, that's Paul McCartney. I was just looking at her tits and she knew I was looking at her tits. I will include the post sex interview at some point in this podcast because it confirms everything I'm saying. Anyway, blah, blah, blah. She's a bit rock and roll. She's young, but legal. Take her out. First date, we go through that whole verbal spikes. I say, what do you Have you got any secrets, any guilty pleasures? And she looks really guilty and she goes, I like furries. And I had just watched the documentary and I went, fuck up. Show me. Show me. And she's going, this is my boyfriend. I love him. You know, we're into furry stuff. We're into conventions. I'm a nerd, but I like Marilyn Manson. And in my head, I'm going, oh, fuck. She's in love with the guy, but this is fucking cool. Anyway, long story short, a couple of beers, got her to the van. 99% of the way there, she goes, I can't. You know, I'm just in love. I've had two guys. There's no way. And, you know, blue balls, you go, oh, for fuck's sake. And I was so horny. The weekend went past. I didn't even message her. And then bing, Monday, sends me a message like, oh, lovely day. Where are you? Do you want to hang out? And I've shown you this message. I'm like, hang out? Like what? And she's like, rum, captain Morgan. I said, yeah. I I got some rum. And she goes, should I bring some cola or weed? And then I'm like, okay. Fuck it. I turned the van around because I was on my way to see Troy Francis. Went drove back an hour. Yeah. And smashed her in a van. And then afterwards, I took her to a park. She wanted to get me stoned. She told me all about furries, and and and that's what the clip I'll put on now. You have to wear a furry You missed that part where you brought a costume.

**Speaker 2:** Well, obviously. She changed her butt. That was why she turned turned around.

**Speaker 0:** Well, a, she's utterly filthy. Sounds like the Finnish girl. You know? She was fucking wild Yeah. In this van. Oh, that that let me just add in that filthy note that I banged in a van, should put on music. And when you're in the van, you're in your little bubble. You don't think there's a world outside. Yeah. We came out of the van about 5PM, 04:30. And there's we didn't realize there's a fucking little mini bar open. There's families and people sitting outside and they all just look like they obviously knew, man. Like she was screaming.

**Speaker 1:** So anyway, that's filthy as well. If the band's rocking, don't come knocking. Don't

**Speaker 0:** laugh. Your sister might be in sight. But I did say at the end of that weed session, I said, I've never fucked somebody wearing like a tail or an animal costume. Then she's No. But with her boyfriend, they fuck her. They fuck us furries. That's gotta be hot, hasn't it? Yeah. That's the first thing that comes to my mind. But would you? That's what everyone's thinking. Would you fuck a girl dressed as a nerdy superhero or a furry? It's fucking hot, man. She looks like a fox. Would you do it, mate? You would. Superhero? Yeah. Animal. An animal. No. Like a a cartoon character. Anime. I guess. Yeah. You would. Which cartoon character? Just for the experience, you would, wouldn't you? It's

**Speaker 3:** like you gotta try it. I was horny for a thirty eight year old busted waitress last night who looked like she was a mail order bride. So I would definitely take the

**Speaker 0:** the hot 20 year old superhero chick. Yeah. But I get it. It's like a niche, ain't it? You wanna try it. And I even kinda get her furry thing when she was describing it. But that was a Czech girl. That was filthy. All these stories today were filthy. What's the theme of the podcast? There isn't one really except, oh yeah, what we were saying at lunchtime. Because you might think, okay, Barcelona sanitized, Prague is sanitized, New York is kind of sanitized. Berlin is getting sanitized. Berlin people say it's sanitized. There's

**Speaker 2:** still some crazy stuff happening there, it's gentrifying,

**Speaker 0:** you know, and that's going have a knock on effect. So I was saying to you and Frank, if you really want to find like crazy punk filth, like Wild West, it's it's the Wild East. Mhmm. So you can go to Bulgaria, Romania right now, obviously Ukraine. There's all these Russian cities that nobody's ever been to or ever heard of. So you don't get depressed and think, oh, there's no filth out there. Even in like a normal city like Bristol, Cardiff, there's always a layer, but you have to look for it now, The don't

**Speaker 2:** value of that filth is, like, it I I think for me is is, like I said, if you go to a place where there's there's that kind of atmosphere Yeah. Then even if you're not interested in that stuff and that's fair enough, it sort of comes out and infects the mood of the place. Yeah. So, you know She is she is interested, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Absolute. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And she She might have go to the sex museum here, you know? Yeah. And you go to I mean, and I I felt it actually in Prague for the first time because I've been here a few times, but generally with with girls and things. And this time, I can feel that sense of like it's a little bit naughty. It's a little bit kind of And that comes through in the interactions when you're talking to you know, if you're meeting girls in daygame or whatever. Polish girls pretend to be filthy, but the interesting thing is they're quite conservative. Mhmm. There's a Catholic thing going on. Here,

**Speaker 0:** no. There there there's a history of filth. Gonna do tonight, isn't it? Nice. You

**Speaker 1:** need to become more sexual in your daygame, so we're gonna do it a little bit later and you'll

**Speaker 0:** you should feel that vibe. Because it's definitely It's one of the best cities in the world, man. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. They say Helsinki, Prague, probably Barcelona still,

**Speaker 2:** New York. Mhmm. London has a when the sun goes down, London gets very filthy. And I've in Severn. You've lived in Severn. London's really good actually. Particularly now when it's coming into it's getting well, freezing there at the moment. But as we go into the sort of early summer, it's really nice because Yeah. You know, you have a really sunny day. And then when the sun starts to go down, it starts to feel like you said, the atmosphere just changes. Yeah. You can feel it on Oxford Street, can't you? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's just like but it gets kind of a bit naughty, that's when you start to get these crazy, you know, quick quick things happening and quick escalations

**Speaker 0:** happening and stuff. Are you traveling anymore, mate? Or you're you're back to England too?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Back to England, but that's the that's the thing. I have been traveling around. I'm still active. I'm just not posting as much stuff with my face out there for other reasons, legal or not.

**Speaker 2:** Fair enough, man. I'm still about

**Speaker 1:** I'm still I'm I'm teaching quite a lot actually at the minute. Is your website still live? It is. It is. I've just taken a step back from it really and that's kind of

**Speaker 2:** in a way helped my results. Yeah. No. No. You know what I mean by it. Yeah. We

**Speaker 0:** spoke about this at Christmas but and being in a van forces me because I've gone to them smaller cities, I can't do 50 approaches like you do in Prague, like Frank's been doing. So I've had to do 10 to 20. In Vilnius, I did 30, I think, or 28. It was too much. So yeah, you've got to become real like choosy, stealth, sneaky and on. And only do it when you really feel that 25. So there's a little tip. Yeah. It wouldn't be for beginners because beginners, you got to churn it out, man. That's the caveat. It's not for beginners. You got to actually learn.

**Speaker 1:** You got to learn it ground up first just so you know where you are at all times, but then then it becomes, yeah, what's the most efficient way? I think it's got a game, hands down to get a leg. Night game, you've you've got cock blocks, things like that to deal with. Generally, people aren't gonna be if they're in a nightclub or a bar, they don't wanna leave pre- It's a lot of work. Midnight 1AM and then daygame, people might have things to do and even a gut game, it's kind of the best of both worlds. Got the seediness, fastness, craziness of night game with the anonymity and,

**Speaker 0:** you know, lack of competition, speed of day games. Gotta film it, man. I know. Keep saying to Craig, I'll pay for your flights to Vegas because if if we could capture on camera what I've, you know, I've traveled with Craig, I've seen that guy again. You know? Hope maybe one day. We'll just blow your face, man. We'll put you in a furry costume. There you go. It's not Craig Castino. He looks like him, but it's not Craig. He speaks like him. Yeah. No. It's not. I promise you. So have you seen that big furry bell from the whole town square? That's me. That's me me number farming. If you're in Disneyland, kids, and you see a

**Speaker 2:** bear come up to you, it's great custody. But that would probably work, actually. Well, yeah. We'll we'll film some go to game one time. Go to game. It's hard to capture. There is such a tricky vibe. It really is the sweet spot though, isn't it? Like you say, I mean, you know, and and and like I think about in London, you know, some sometimes when I've had, you know, first first day blaze or whatever, they've come through what really through through gutter game. Cause it's at the end of the it's at evening, later evening, you know, so your day game stretches into the evening. And then as it the sun goes down, it starts to get a bit seedy and that's when things happen. It works everywhere. We've done it in Harlem. We've done it in Vegas. We did it in Vancouver.

**Speaker 0:** It's not like a European thing. It really works in America, works in Sydney. Every city has this switch.

**Speaker 1:** But I think it's an important thing for beginners to try anyway because of the vibe that you need to make these kinds of crazy things happen that will help you in the day, that'll help you stand out as not just because you're doing very social day game. Doing all this crazy stuff at night will actually spill over and improve your daygame in general. So for sure, do some go at game. At least try it. It's it's my favorite stuff. Well and when we're on that world tour, was like It's the only option. Yeah. Save your energy and go out towards the end of night. Smash it. Lazy fucker. But to

**Speaker 0:** tie it all up, if you wanna make it even easier, go to a sin city. Right? So I shouldn't have to tell you where they are. If you're in America, you could go to New York, go to Vegas, go to Miami, go to Austin, Texas, which was shit for daygame to be honest. But that dirty street, what's it called? 6th Street. 6th Street. Yeah. Made for the gutter game. Yeah. Anywhere with that vibe. Even Cardiff. Right? Cardiff not great for daygame, but gutter game, Bristol, Manchester. Yeah. It's untapped. So we'll go into this a lot more. But anyway, cheers to mister F-frank. Thank you. Cheers to Troy Francis. Thank you very much. All the links are below. And to mister Krauser, all the links are below. Cheers. From Chesky, we say I think I should fucking know that. Embarrassing. We say, cheerio. Ta da. Bye. See you. You seem very relaxed. Didn't freak out that a British guy took you to Izvan. That's awesome. Who wouldn't want that? I don't know. People make a joke saying like, oh, creepy, you know, creepy van, kidnap van. It's funny. If you said to your mom, mom, I just had sex with a British guy in a van, what would she say? She would get hot as heck. Yeah.