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# Episode 153 Funnel Of Love (With Mystery & Beckster)

**Speaker 0:** Tom Torero podcast a 153 on the funnel of love. This one recorded a few days ago in mother Russia. Much requested, a long time coming. That's what she said. With the one, the only mystery, plus Baxter, plus myself, plus a Brazilian PUA called j k, plus a wing and regular podcast guest, Ian. It's a mega magical podcast. We sat around a table. We hit record, and this is what happened.

**Speaker 1:** Right. We're here, Mystery Dexter. Torero,

**Speaker 2:** JK,

**Speaker 1:** and lovely lady Victoria. And Victoria. And Victoria. Victoria's Secret. We're here in Moscow, and the topic of discussion right now is the seven hour rule. The seven hour rule basically states that it takes on average somewhere between four and ten hours, or the average is seven hours, from meeting a woman to beginning sexual relationship. If you go any less than four hours, you're compromising her comfort. And the same happens if you go over ten hours. You're compromising her comfort if you start to kino escalate to seduction. We have been gaming pretty hard now for several, several, several weeks Yes. While we've been here in various cities in Europe. And the question is, is seven hours still applicable? Reason why that is brought up is because some of Baxter's very logistically positive sets have landed him a girl in his bed inside four hours. My suggestion is that the that's due to the fact that that our logistics are really good. And what I mean by logistics are the technical logistics of going from one location to another with your target. They happen to be good because we choose Airbnb's in various cities that are very close to the target rich locations. There are three physical locations that most pickups go through. One is the target rich location, the next is the Comfort Building location, and the third is the seduction location. Yes. And we just happen to have those three locations really close to each other. Right? So what are your thoughts on this?

**Speaker 0:** Well, you what what JK and I saw or discussed on the train was still attraction comfort seduction. Yeah. Age old attraction comfort seduction. And we were looking at levels of attraction, daygame level of attraction, length of daygame attraction, comfort seduction. Seduction, and with Mystery where we were talking on average. Right. The averages. The average. So we see Bexter enter venue one on that first night in Saint Petersburg. Mystery and I just thought, bloody hell, volume of noise, Yeah, very loud. Baxter's That's no excuse. That's no excuse. And we see Baxter, flash game, attraction level like a rocket. Spikes. Spikes like a rocket. So I understand your attraction for sure. The the mystery for me and j k we were talking about is the comfort. Where is your

**Speaker 2:** where is your comfort, young man? Yeah. I have an idea of where my comfort is, but I would like Yeah. To I would like to In your point of view as a You I your

**Speaker 1:** comfort lies in the roll offs. It's one escalate with the girl. It's a whole other thing to then roll off and wait for her to reengage you in conversation. Yeah. And that's what I think is happening. Willingness to walk away. The willingness to walk away is being demonstrated by you by spinning the girl and then putting her safely back on her high heels and then rolling off, and then waiting for her to reengage you. When she does, then you can escalate again. Yes. So the power of kino escalation is always in the roll off. Yep.

**Speaker 2:** Well, I guess I ramp up the bind temperature really quickly until it hits a maybe maximum point. And then I just walk away. Yep. And they're just like, what?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. They're not accustomed to that. They're accustomed to being hit on profusely. Yeah. Especially for the nines and tens. That's right. They get hit on once, and then you hit on them a second time, and then you hit on a third time, then you hit on a fourth time, and you keep doing it until what? What are they looking for? Are they looking for instant IOIs? You hit on the girl, and it's a way of demonstrating your interest. And it's important for them to know that you are interested. Otherwise, they become bored. Right? So kissing a girl in a nightclub environment, which I believe is a comfort escalation. I think it's about building comfort with the kissing. The power of kissing is in rolling off from kissing.

**Speaker 3:** JK? Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Just speaking. Well,

**Speaker 3:** yep, Baxter is a monster when, Yeah, we've been traveling together for a week and I see it in action. My question is, yes, sometimes we can just go to seduction phase and foreclose in less than four hours, three. But in my experience, what happens? Huge token LMR's, and after that, huge buyer buyer's

**Speaker 1:** remorse. You know? Yeah. Buyer's remorse takes place if you're under if you're under seven hours, you can get buyer's remorse. If you're under four hours, there is going to be buyer's remorse. For sure. Yeah. And also, you're talking about last minute resistance. Yep. See, with seven hours, there is very little last minute resistance. In fact, seven hours on average is the point where the woman will begin to seduce you if you have attraction, which has bought you an opportunity to build comfort with her. And if you have comfort, then she'll seduce you.

**Speaker 3:** The point is, Baxter Yeah. How you can implement only three hours and doesn't get high LMR and high buyers remorse after the sex. But we're not sure. For

**Speaker 2:** me, this is the mystery. Yeah. I don't get it. I thought I'm gonna get it. They messaged me. I'm in contact with 90% of them. Okay.

**Speaker 1:** 10% of them though are giving you a bit of a buyer's remorse. Or I just Or maybe the buyer's remorse is coming from you. From me maybe. Is that because you can get them so quickly?

**Speaker 2:** It's keeping up. It's it's just who do who who do I get on with? Who do I wanna say again because I get on with them? Right. It's not just

**Speaker 1:** about the girls looks. Yeah. Sometimes it's pulling teeth to spend seven hours with the girl. I need to really get on with that girl. Are they worth the seven hours? Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** I I like fun. I like good conversation. So, you know,

**Speaker 0:** just coming back to the venues, you did in Saint Petersburg, you had a great comfort building location underneath your apartment. Yeah. You do the walk. Yeah. I know there's a Beck's to walk and talk. The walk and tuck is a comfort Comfort building? So I lock Okay. Yeah. I link I link arms.

**Speaker 1:** And keep going because I never see you in the comfort zone of face. You talk about when you see me in my comfort bar. I'll just briefly touch on Well, in Saint Petersburg, we had the great opportunity of having an Airbnb that was in the penthouse of a building where on the 2nd Floor of that building, there was a private and very elegant cafe,

**Speaker 2:** a hookah bar. Yeah. So What? Twenty four hour food,

**Speaker 1:** a great How much more Like balcony. How much greater can our logistics be It couldn't be better. It couldn't be better. Can't be better than that. The only thing better is if there was a club on the 1st Floor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If there was a Target A good cafe. A Target location for one. Fucking up. A Comfort building location on Floor 2, and then our apartment on Floor 3. Yeah. Yeah. That would be absolutely ideal. Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. We'll have to look for an Airbnb that can sleep in still that doesn't keep you awake all night from the nightclub. Yeah. But nonetheless, the Airbnb's that we choose are nearby the target rich locations. We do that by choice. Yeah. So you go to the venue, it's within a ten minute walk, then you go into that venue and you meet the girls there, then you find a target and you meet her friends as well. Yeah. Sometimes have disowned friends this week as well. Sometimes you bring the friends with you and her to the Comfort Building location. Yep. And then they pop by, check out the the apartment briefly, and then come back down to the Comfort Building location. Yeah. Did that as well. Shine it in. In order to get them comfortable with your location, with your seduction location, but don't stay there because their comfort will be compromised. And then you return to the comfort building location. And then when you finally return back to the seduction location, she's already been there. She may have left a purse. Yeah. She's comfortable at that location returning to the scene of the crime. Trust is demonstrated

**Speaker 2:** when you do it that way. I would say okay. I'm I'm thinking about it deeply now, deep inside. And I would say I do micro comfort, so it's quick. It's micro. So for example and and people do it by default anyway. Yeah. And one thing is it it be like, let's go to the bar. So I I link arms or I hold my hand out. And with with that, they grab the hand and I change it to a link

**Speaker 1:** and Fingers

**Speaker 2:** wrapped in the And then lead them to the bar or arm to the bar. And then I'm locked in, but looking at them and ordering a drink at the same time like that. Right. So my back's to the barman in a way, but my head tilted towards him. And now and then I'll look at her and fractionate away.

**Speaker 1:** And then is on your left and the bartender is on your right. Indeed. Got it. And then and so there's a bit of comfort with that because I can't be doing power to trash. Is in the roll off. Yeah. You're able to speak to the girl who's on your left, and then you get to turn your head to your right and roll off of her as you talk to the bartender, for instance. Yes. Exactly. And then from that,

**Speaker 2:** there's going outside. So if the girl smokes or I wanna I or if they don't, I I wanna get fresh air. You know, I would like to get some fresh air. Do wanna go out? And and there's an atmosphere outside as well. So it's not like because people are smoking out there. Smirking, smoking and flirting. So you're doing multiple venues really? It's it's Microwave. Quick. It's micro Yeah. Yeah. Micro bouncing. And the reason why bouncing is so important

**Speaker 1:** is because the more memories that you create, the more she feels like she knows you. I would rather, for instance, hang out with a woman for five hours in five different locations than for five hours in one location. Yeah. I want to create the bounce because greater and greater trust is created when you go from venue to venue. She compromises her safety by deciding to comply with the bounce, and she arrives safely at the next public venue only to have you spend a little time with her and then roll off of her again, and so she comes and chases you. You can't be chased by a woman unless you create a distance in which she can chase you by. Yeah. Agreed. Right. Counterintuitive.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Not to pull, pull, pull, pull. Yeah. Don't pull, pull, pull, pull.

**Speaker 1:** It's it's Push. Pull, push, push, pull, and you're pulling more than you're pushing.

**Speaker 2:** Well,

**Speaker 1:** a push, push. That way you get that way you get a girl chasing you. Right? You make a move, but then you roll off, wait for her to reengage in that. Or double roll off. Does a double roll off. Exactly. One step forward, two steps back. One step forward, two steps back.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. And that's so rare. Exactly. Hello. Hello, Ian. Hello. Come and join us. We have a new member in our group now. He's a veteran podcast. Hi. Hi. Busy? Okay. Here we go. Well, let me let me finish.

**Speaker 2:** So from that, I then build a bigger comfort and the comfort is the walk home.

**Speaker 0:** The ten minute walk home. Talk about the earbuds. That was good. Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** And that you can get more intimate by earbuds, you know, the new air pod earbuds. Yeah. You have a nice pair of those and you take one of them and you place it in her ear. Yeah. And then you listen to something and sharing that experience together. Listening to what what is it that you listen to. Well, for example, I was using it into effect with Google translate because we're in Russia at the moment. We're in Moscow. Right. So I do that and just like put it in And it translate. It speaks.

**Speaker 1:** Google translate is romantic. Yeah. Isn't it? Haven't you found that? I found that by interacting, it slows down the interaction. It's hypnotic.

**Speaker 2:** But it's there's something hypnotic about that, isn't there? You have to wait for the response. And as you wait, you're you're very close. You we use it a lot, don't we? Yeah. But yeah. So so I guess that there in lies my comfort moves. But within comfort, I do put attraction in. Spikes. There's always attraction in every What do you mean by attraction? So it's still is this it's still quite you know, that's alright. So on the comfort walk home Right. If there's someone playing music in the street, I'll start dancing with them. I'll give them a twirl. I'll do a little move, and we'll just be there for a few moments, and then I'll lock them in for a quidding, and then keep going. And that's and they're like Temporary. And it's just It's it's a quick boost in case there's a lull within comfort. Right. So you keep them at soon as there's a You can't see that cause we're on the right thing. As soon as there's a lull, you

**Speaker 1:** introduce something entertaining once again and up they up their buying temperature. Yeah. Yeah. It raises Fair. Same

**Speaker 2:** And it might be so one thing I used to do I was actually asked, but I did it last week because the roads are so big and you know it counts down in Russia. It's like 80 five. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe five seconds. When it's on like Six seconds. You don't wanna wait two minutes where it's like Yeah. Yeah. Two minutes across the road here. Right. And so I'm like, quick go. And I grab them and I know they're safe, but they're like, oh, through their heels and they're running off. And then when I get to I don't know. And then when I get to the other end, I grab them and I spin them around towards me like that. They're like

**Speaker 1:** They've got adrenaline. Kiss them. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. As the rush is there. And then roll off. And then roll off and then go. Back on the arm again. Yeah. And walk again. It's a good there's a good there's

**Speaker 2:** a good video on YouTube of me doing it when I go to the club in Helsinki. For one hour I did demo in and you can see me picking up the girls spinning them and rolling off and what you're literally just walking away and leaving them yeah and then dancing with the two in the middle yes but around me and then just walking off again and they're like you could see their face because on camera what was the song that was playing on the man. I'm the man. I'm the kids. Yeah. That's the video. Yeah. You could check that out. Bexaram page. Bexaram. Lifestyle little plug. Keyching. Okay.

**Speaker 0:** Second topic, which I wanted to ask Mystery about and you were curious about this Ian being a day gamer levels of game and I wanted to call it the funnel of love the funnel of love because what I've experienced with you two key boys is is is another side to game. Two long standing day gamers, single sets, rarely merge sets, meet other family members, friends, one on one. We think it's a good game, solid game. We get the result. But watching forwards merging, backwards merging,

**Speaker 1:** last night into this night. I have a suspicion that if you meet a girl by herself and you don't get a chance to meet her friends, that's a little shortsighted. If she doesn't get a chance to meet your friends, then what you've done effectively is you've met somebody and you haven't seen what they're like with other people, and she hasn't seen what you're like with other people, and more so you haven't allowed her friends to meet your friends. At some point before sex, you're going to have to. So that's something to do on a day two is say, let's go hang out with friends. Right? We'll go hang out and when she does hang out, you have friends with you already, Roosh. So to me, daygame, which usually is girls by their onesie. Right? Maybe two, but Maybe a two set. We treat that like the one. And you treat and you treat you treat two sets like a single because the friend is joined by the hip. You can't isolate your target in a two set. It alienates the obstacle. Right? I call that level zero from the five levels of game. Pay attention. One level one is opening the three set. Women of beauty are rarely alone. They're usually in groups. So growing accustomed to working a group, I think therein lies the training. You can get good at that, and then opening singles become, you know, fish in a barrel. It becomes a lot easier once you have the skill set for handling the entire group. But that's only level one. Level two is merging sets. I want to meet her friends. I want to get peer approval. I want her to meet my friends so I can roll off, and she's still entertained. My friends then can do accomplishment introductions on my behalf so that I'm still DHVing even when I'm not there. I don't even have to be in earshot, and I'm still DHVing thanks to my friends. Right? And then thirdly, of course, my friends get to meet her friends when we merge those sets together. And now I can isolate my target if it's a two set, for instance. Makes sense? Yep. So that's level two is merging sets. And I think it's both basic and advanced. It's advanced because you have to open more than one set. Mind you, the second set opens easier when you have preselection. You've got girls with you already. That second set will open. But it's also basic in that we have to do that tonight. Merging forward is where you say, let's go make some friends. Merging backwards is where you say, let me introduce you to some good friends of mine. Don't be an ass. They're good people. And within that comes what I call maneuverability.

**Speaker 0:** And the idea of relative value, this is really interesting. And that, as you said, daygame, one on one, she's, as I said, she's reading you like a barcode, you know, does this guy have value? Okay. He can tell a story. Is he test guys or is he a model? Is he buff? You know, Tom Torero? Based on look of looks alone. Looks but also my personality. But the minute you introduce another female, a group of friends Backwards merge. Backwards merge merge. Your value is relative to what is around you. That's right. That's a drywall. For a daygamer, that's like, what? You're like the minute you merge. Do you see what I'm meaning? Which we never do. We can increase our value simply by being

**Speaker 1:** Well, what you end up doing is you end up telling a story and that story has preselection DHVs built into it. Right? Talking about a time you were hanging out with We do that. Yeah. With Victoria.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Right? For example. But it's not as powerful. It's not as seeing Victoria. Exactly.

**Speaker 1:** It's not nearly as powerful as demonstrating it live in the now. So that's what level two is all about. Merging sets, getting greater maneuverability, getting preselection, getting peer approval. And then, of course, level three is where you allow last night successes to assist you in this night successes. So when you go to a venue, like a nightclub environment, you already have women with you, thereby sweetening the pot. That's level three.

**Speaker 0:** Which was your job for a long time?

**Speaker 1:** Well, yeah. I got into We should all be doing it. It feels good to walk into a venue with girls with you. And it also preserves a woman a new woman's comfort when she realizes that you were preselected, you have women with you. Obviously, you must have some sort of higher value for women in general. She may not know who you are, but she knows by the fact that you have girls with you, that you have something going for you for women in general. And she's a woman, so she's gonna feel that instant attraction for you. The way I see it, it's it's as if you have just grown a big set of boobs. Yeah. As men, that's that's how I describe it. Imagine the difference between someone with flat who's flat chested and someone with large breasts. You're just more attracted and it's built in. Well, from a woman's perspective, she's more attracted to a man who is seen already preselected by women. And that that demonstration

**Speaker 0:** in the now with women is much more greater than just saying that you used to date a supermodel. Well, even Instagram. Instagram's good. Instagram is changing the game Yeah. With stories and videos, but it's still not as good as you pulling up. Come and meet my friends and there's And there's girls to meet. There's a lot of hot girls. Yeah. And you see her value perception

**Speaker 1:** and she, you know, on her own Her value perception changes Yeah. Lowers This is wasn't just as she meets your female friends.

**Speaker 2:** Well, I I mean, I did I did I involuntary got into club hosting because I'd go to the VIP clubs with hot girls and the club owner once pulled me to the side in the top club which is China whites at the time and he said if you keep bringing the girls here and don't go to other clubs, I'll pay you get queue jump, You get free drink, get VIP table in the VIP room and you get the main table in the big room. Just keep bringing it on a roll. It'll be rolling with 20 girls. So I said, how many can I bring? Then if that's the case And he goes, 100.

**Speaker 1:** That's number four. Yeah. And I said, I always do things 10% better. Can I bring a 110? He went, yeah. So Number four is where you allow last month's successes to assist you in this month's success. That's entourage dynamics. That's having that's having a social circle. Right? Mhmm. And we all wanna be playing in that in that level. Now it takes time. We're new to a city. We have to start from scratch. So what do we do? We face the dragon head on and strike its heart. If that means walking up to a girl all by her onesie, so be it. But again, beauty is rarely alone, so we have to learn to work those groups. Right? That's level one, working the groups. And that includes mixed sets. A mixed set is where the woman is hanging out with men. There are men in those sets. It's a mixed set. It's not all female. And a lot of guys will shy away from that because, oh, you know, one might be a boyfriend. But odds are, he's just an orbiter. He's just around her because she's beautiful. She's going to not go out alone. She's gonna bring someone to chaperone her. Right? To feel safe with. And if you go in and you go in direct, then he will protect her. But if you go indirect, which is a different school of thought, initiating a conversation without telegraphing interest, then by including him in the conversation, you are permitted to gain her. Right? So here we've talked about level zero, which is opening up singles. Level one, opening up groups. Level two, allowing the last set to assist you in the next set, that's merging sets. Level two. Level three is letting last month to assist you in this month. Yep. Oh, my bad. Is letting last night to assist you in this night. Level four is letting last month to assist you in this month. And then the final one, level five, is hot game. And this is what celebrities do. Or people with great Instagram networking with great images. Tom Torero. Tom Torero. Sure. I've met him. I've met him personally. He's he's a fine individual who knows how to build a circle Yep. And role in large numbers. Yep. Because he doesn't just go out alone. Oh. He he travels in packs. And that's level five. Level five is where you allow your networking ability to play into it. Instagram or good Facebook. JK, you had a thought? Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 3:** As we can see, merging sets, it's a key ability from any gamer.

**Speaker 0:** Day or night. Day or night.

**Speaker 3:** How can you show your sets that the merging is a high value is giving value to them and then they come with you to another set and merging and knowing another people because I've been facing some problems when I try to merge sets. You need compliance.

**Speaker 1:** You need compliance. You need to build a compliance momentum. If it starts with here, hold this for a moment. If, you have a pen in your hand, hold this for a moment. Thank you. And then you she returns it to you in a moment. Or if I take my scarf off and place it on her using it as a lock and prop, it buys me a couple more minutes, right, in conversation with the girl. She has to hand that back before she can leave. And when she does hand it back, some trust has been established. Why? Because I trusted her with the object.

**Speaker 0:** Well, so you also qualify that when you say, let's go meet my friends, the caveat is, are you cool? Are you gonna be okay? You know? Can I trust you? That's right. That's right. Powerful.

**Speaker 1:** And they haven't earned it on the open. No. Not introducing her to my friends. She's just about to say, and then you say, are you cool enough? Can I trust you? I believe that it's high valued male behavior to qualify a girl. It's so important. It's become a phase in the model Yeah. In the structure. A massively important phase. So it's it's a huge part of your game Yeah.

**Speaker 0:** Sexual qualification.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Yeah. Dirty qualification, but you're qualifying. Well, it it flipped. It it ramps up. It's it's you don't just go straight in with a high end one. You build them up, but which you can do in like a three minute routine. What? But no, you can though. So the three criteria, which is really four. You don't wanna say there's four because it seems like too many, but you got this a four for special people. What are the three criteria? Special needs. Well, it's a whole routine which I'm going to next. It's long ass. But it's basically you qualify them from not wearing too much makeup and they have to kiss your hand. Mhmm. Prove it. They're already proven. They don't Well, the first one is, are you open minded and friendly? Yes. Low. Low qualifier. Then kiss my hand. She kiss my hand in front of everyone in the room. Yeah. Right? Second, good smelling hair. So she's doing this and leaning in to say, my hair smell good. So you can smell her hair. You can get make out on that. Yeah. Yeah. And rub behind the ear, and next level, the next one is good tasting shoes. So now that and I say, but I can't look because you know, that's my only weakness and I always win. Right. And they're like, no, they're trying to it's great on strippers. They're trying to get no, no, I won't look. Okay. Get it. Put put your leg on here then and you put the leg on. Or if they're standing, you spin them. Fair. You spin them. And I'll say now now you're dancing. And then I keep holding the hand as I've spanned. So now it's getting a bit sexual. Pull them in a bit. Fair. And then I say, but you know what it indicates? And they're like, what? What? No. I don't know if I should tell you. And then they're like, no. No. Please, please. And then and then I point down to their shoes and slowly trail my hand up to their underwear, and I say good taste in underwear. Don't you think? And they're like, yeah. Sometimes they'll show you Show the

**Speaker 1:** you their thong,

**Speaker 2:** their sting. Now, on the street? This

**Speaker 1:** has worked on the street as an opener even. It's, again, high a high value male behavior is to qualify a girl. But in a group dynamic, this is something you can't do because it may be a mixed set. So you'll wait to run this routine until you're in the qualification phase. Yes. And you've had a chance to isolate the girl and then you can run that material.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Right? But then there's a fourth. So I say, oh, there's a fourth, I need to tell special people. And I like to whisper it and I put my finger to my lips or sometimes theirs. And and then and then Lips. Yeah. Which lips? And then I'm I'm gonna have to demo as I'm doing it. So I'm walking around the room here, everybody. And then I pull them back. Beating back against a wall or It's like a comfort. Like a sexual comfort. There you go. Sexual comfort. And then, yes, a bar or corner or a kiss close or the kiss close corner as I it. Yeah. Away from everyone. And then I say, well, I won best kisser in uni two years in a row. And I'm pulling them in slowly at the time, put their hands on my hips, let go, see if they keep their hands there. And I rock, I body rock seemed in it now. And so it's like we're dancing a bit and then I say, so any kiss girls that are good kisses, what would you because my hands are free now. What so I'm pointing to my lips, kisses. So what would you rate yourself on a scale of one to 10? And on triangle gating? Yep. And then they're like they will say nine or 11. It's really funny. Alright. And then I go prove it.

**Speaker 1:** Let's go in for the kiss. Yeah. Yeah. And go for the kiss. Yeah. Or just drag him in.

**Speaker 0:** Victoria's hypnotized. Two two Stop this right now. Two

**Speaker 2:** two opportunities to kiss clothes. So What are these two opportunities again? So when you're when you're smelling her hair, you're leaning in. Yeah. And you Smelling her hair? Flinch test. Yeah. Oh, I I rub my cheek against their cheek slowly as I pull out. And then you look. Mediocre triangle gaze. I can't Yeah. But if I if it's going that way, I'm not gonna say mediocre.

**Speaker 1:** A triangle gaze, by the way, is where you look at their left eye, then the right eye, and then their mouth, and then back up to their left eye Yeah. To the right eye, to their mouth. Yeah. And it's it's a way of showing them you're interested in their lips. Indeed.

**Speaker 2:** Right. Yeah. That's triangle gazing. And which is powerful. People don't really use it. I'm like, why?

**Speaker 1:** Something to look out for when you're triangle gazing. Daygame. Oh, yeah. Something to look out for with triangle gazing.

**Speaker 2:** Are the are the pupils dilated? Yeah. As I recall on my last set, they were Sometimes the lips get more plump and red as well. Fair. Good job. So

**Speaker 0:** Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. It works.

**Speaker 0:** Ian's with us. You remember Ian from previous podcasts.

**Speaker 1:** Ian, your focus has been on daygame. Yeah. My focus has been on nightgame. That's not to say I don't do daygame, but that is my weakness. Daygame is my weakness. That's the same. Nightgame is the And nightgame. So we're gonna hang out this weekend. I'm going to eat some humble pie and hopefully learn some daygame. And hopefully, you'll learn some nightgame tactics as well. And you're a nightclub owner. So because And we'll be better for having done it. Do you agree with that? Hopefully. Yeah. We will face the dragon head on and strike its heart. Yeah. That's that's how we take down a dragon. And the dragon is an invisible dragon that exists in our minds. Yeah. Right? So rather than focus on inner game, we're gonna focus on outer game, learn a few tactics that will actually help us to project a solid personality into the set. And then after we've done that, the girl can choose whether she wants to hang out with us more or not. That's the game plan. Personality gets conveyed first, then we get them talking when we get to qualifying.

**Speaker 2:** Well, wanted to ask a question actually. No more questions. About my daygame. Do you know, because I you know, like, I'm I'm a prolific night gamer. Yes. But I have been daygaming. I've seen you. And it's it's been working. I've seen Mystery. And yeah. Exactly. And but what why what because you can break things down really well. So you're watching me. I wanna know what's what's different. What's going on?

**Speaker 0:** I said to I said to Mystery that I was sobbing that this beautiful model like the m three model, you know, years and years and years, Ian and I craft this sculpture and we see Baxter in Saint Petersburg. Yeah. It's it's the same model. There's attraction. There's comfort, but it's high energy.

**Speaker 1:** It's quite flashy. I think I know what is going on because I've been with Baxter now for eleven years hanging out with him, gaming in cities virtually around the entire world. And it's known as the current emotional state opener. One of my openers is where I point to to one of the people in their group in the group I'm approaching. I'll point to their belly and say, what's in your belly? What do you got in your belly? What did you eat? What did you eat? Well, what did you eat, Tom? Stroganoff. So I'll call you Stroganoff for the rest of the day. You are Stroganoff. I got a lobster in my belly, and I've got a double shot of Jaeger. So you know what they're doing right now? They're making love in my belly. What you write that on paper Yeah. And you and you read it, and it's absolutely nonworkable. It's gonna sound silly, but it works in field. Why? Because I'm conveying my personality. I'm conveying that I'm non needy. I'm not hitting them hitting on them in a direct manner. I'm coming off as nonthreatening and in a playful state. So I'm conveying my state on the open. And I think that's really one of the things that Baxter is exemplary at. Yep. He opens up in such a way that it looks like the entire exchange exists for his personal entertainment. Mhmm.

**Speaker 2:** Isn't it? It's Isn't it?

**Speaker 0:** And it's in it's in direct direct. The caveat is Semi wrecked. Both semi wrecked. Both of both Mystery's Mystery's daygame and Baxter's daygame wasn't direct or indirect. A calibrated pickup artist is indirect direct matching where they are. So yesterday, he he did a jogger. Yeah. And he opened he opened by jogging with her with headphones. She was a 9.8.

**Speaker 2:** We don't rate women, Mystery Method. If we were to If we were Victoria told me Victoria told Victoria me She

**Speaker 0:** was a 9.8.

**Speaker 2:** Actually, she said Then she said She said I would. Give her one. I'd give her one. Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** You rated her. On the binary scale of zero to one, she was a one. I said, what'd get with? Goes, I'll give her one.

**Speaker 2:** And then the shoes, talk about She was actually she's a Instagram sort of 70,000.

**Speaker 1:** LA. Yes. How many how many Instagram followers 68,000. 68,000

**Speaker 2:** followers. But I I only like girls with 69,000,

**Speaker 1:** so I'm not interested. Now why why were you able to get her Instagram? The reason for that is k. Something that we've done now living in 2018, we don't go for phone numbers anymore. A phone number is so hard to get. There's so many numbers. It's so much easier to say, are you Instagram friendly? Than it is to say, can I have your number? We don't ask for their numbers anymore. We ask for Instagram because it's easy to get. It's not, it's not hard for her to give. It's not meaningful, and yet you can then communicate. And you can communicate with pictures and with video and with voice, and you can connect with them more face to face in that way. Yep. Right? By having video videos going back and forth than you can by uploading DHVs.

**Speaker 0:** That's not a metaphor anymore. The rats are right. You literally are uploading. And that's a part of hot game. Yeah. Right? Yep.

**Speaker 2:** It is. Yep.

**Speaker 1:** Well, there we go. So we talked about the five levels of game. We talked about direct versus indirect a little bit. We talked about qualification. We talked about how to close a girl. Best way to close is, are you Instagram friendly? At least that's what we're using for now.

**Speaker 0:** Any other things in recap? And Baxter's use of comfort. And there we have it. We shall say goodbye. That's with Yadanya from Mother Russia with Mystery, with Baxter, with JK, with Ian, with Victoria's Secret, we shall say goodbye.