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# Episode 161 To Filter Or Not To Filter

**Speaker 0:** Hello, good and morgan, Thomas Torero podcast a 161 your weekly degenerate dose of daygame via digital miracles on iTunes, on YouTube, and soon on other favorite podcast platforms. To filter or not to filter, that is the daygame question. I shall be asking and answering today with a daygamer in the Baltics, a bloody good daygamer called Saint Roberts, who I met on my travels. We shall bring him in via the magic of Skype in a second. It's a prerecorded interview I did earlier this week. I am waiting to head off to Germany for the weekend. I'm going to Munich with my original daygame wing, dirty Anthony hustle, a fantastic hustler who's back in the game. We're just doing a one off sold out boot camp, and that's it for the end of my, teaching this year. So Munich this weekend and then back to The UK and European hustling after that. But I need to do a plug. What would this podcast be without a cha ching plug? My books, my bedtime book collection for bachelors. What a lot of alliteration this week. The textbook a to zed is street hustle. It's hardback print only. That's my bible for daygame, texting, dating, relationships, etcetera, including the biology of lust and love. And then the kindle and paperback book, daygame, my first ever book followed by Torero travels and then cold calling. And soon my new book below the belt will also be a paperback and eventually on kindle. That's a few weeks away. Anyway, enough of the plugs. Let us dive into podcast a 161 where I talk to some Roberts about his daygame rollercoaster of a journey and this critical question dividing daygamers right now. Should you filter what types of girls you approach and date? Should you change your approach to different girls on dates and with escalating? Or is it all just the bloody same? Over to you, Robert. Saint Robert, are you there in Riga, Latvia? Yeah. Hi, Tom. I'm here and ready to roll. Good evening, sir. What a pleasure. I met you on my van tour. It was bloody cold, I was driving through Latvia. And who did I meet but a a tall, suave daygamer in the streets? And he said, hello. I'm Saint Robert. That's how we met, I think, wasn't it, bro?

**Speaker 1:** It was. We we we exchanged a bit of we exchanged a few emails and, another thing was both times you were in Riga,

**Speaker 0:** you accidentally run into me. Yes. Either I'm stalking you or you're stalking me. I don't know. Exactly. Something's wrong. Something's wrong. But it was nice to meet you after you had sent me some lay reports, I think, from, from Riga for the below the belt thing. Yeah. And it was quite clear from the statistics you gave me that you're doing very well. So do you want to tell our dear brothers about your daygame, about how you got into daygame and give them some stats cause guys like the old stats.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah, I'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to stats and I started seriously daygaming, I started last September maybe October and I started counting sets mid October and since then I've done a bit less than 800 sets like seven sixty or something like that. I don't recall exact number of plays it's around twenty four twenty five from daygame. So that's between one out of thirty and one out of 40. So one out of 30 or one out of 40 opens. As for numbers, I don't know, I have like a 30 something percent number close percentage. Almost all of them reply like 82% reply. And of those around 20% come out something like that. And my late numb my late date number is around one point eight. So the delay usually happens on date number 1.8 around something like that. Well these are these are these I these

**Speaker 0:** love them. These are very impressive and some guys are going what the fuck I don't believe it but having having met you and and and seen your vibe and I've forgotten how old you are mate.

**Speaker 1:** I'm 30 and when actually when we first met I still had my hair.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. You've gone hardcore now.

**Speaker 1:** I I went hardcore. I have a huge beard, bald head, shave it every day, ripped jeans, and, basically, I don't know, like a bit of a rock and roll vibe. Well, those stats are very impressive. There's

**Speaker 0:** almost little room for improvement. I mean, I do know daygamers with a one in 20, stat. A one in three number close is fine, and a one out of two date delay is is is bang on quite literally. What what I said to you that you can change, the final test for you is getting the hell out of Riga, because it's one thing it's impressive still with Latvians and Latvian Russians, but if you can replicate those stats in, Miami, Sydney, Barcelona, then you think fuck yeah, this is global. Yeah? Exactly.

**Speaker 1:** And that's the reason why I'm considering actually going to Kiev this autumn. Yeah. Just to try try my skills outside of outside of Riga. There is a we're going with another daygamer if I'm going. He's from Portugal and I'm from Riga so we have very different backgrounds but we're both gonna test Kiev. Nice man. Testing your metal in another arena.

**Speaker 0:** Exactly. Well that that was that was the stats. What about that's quite a short time. I didn't realize you had only started the end of last year.

**Speaker 1:** I did some a bit of daygame like 50 sets before and had one lay. But then I got in a two and a half year relationship which which comes up later in my stories today. That's a story I'm gonna totally tell the listeners. I used your dating model before I started daygaming. I used it when I when I still use Tinder and other tools. So I I knew the dating model, but I didn't use the daygame skills that much. Well,

**Speaker 0:** impressive. Impre And as I said to you in Riga, it's all very nice if you listed all your lays, but what guys really like and what's useful is the juicy failure, or the juicy pain, and even in less than a year's worth of approaching, you must have some wonderfully low moments as well as the highs.

**Speaker 1:** Oh, definitely. The beginning was really hard actually because if you if you are from a bigger city, you can you can find people who daygame and you can go out with them. Or if you found Tom Torero when you started, you had the right tools, had the right information, you had the right wings. And what happened to me was I started in Riga where no one really did much there, did much here. People who did something, I knew a guy who did some RSD stuff, I knew someone who did model one stuff, but I couldn't really learn from them. So I had to learn all by myself. I thought I was the only one. And I didn't have a being, I didn't have anything. I just went out alone and it was basically walking alone for two weeks almost every day for two hours like an idiot and telling myself excuses why I'm not opening. And actually I walked literally, I'm not joking. I walked around for two weeks nonstop trying to do a set and I didn't do a single open. Can you remember

**Speaker 0:** those voices in your head? Because every guy has a different subset of voices. Like do you remember what the anxiety was? Was it people are watching me or I'm not worthy or she's not hot enough?

**Speaker 1:** It was all of that but basically it was the physical feeling that I was feeling in my throat, in my chest. It was just like squishing me. Yeah. And I was so scared I couldn't even imagine going up to a girl. So yeah, but it was more physical than once I started opening I started noticing the reasons why I didn't open because basically my start was in October. So it's getting cold and people aren't on the streets and the whole winter I had to game in one shopping mall. Yeah. Like three four times a week in one shopping mall in the center of Riga. It's not a big city. Yeah, it's a small mall. So everyone everyone's watching everyone knows and it was obviously it was true. But it doesn't didn't really stop me from doing it. Just I kept pushing through. And what actually helped me a lot was I didn't focus on doing 10 sets. I didn't care about that. What I did was I focus on doing one set per day. If I had one conversation, if I did one open, I was really happy with what I did. Nice. And I started focusing on really small positive things. From there it went I don't know like once I did a week of one set per day. It was it was much easier. I started doing five ten sets and approach anxiety kind of it never really goes away.

**Speaker 0:** That's that. But you prove you prove to your brain through the real world feedback and that it works and that they're not all blowouts that you can't get phone numbers and then by that stage were some of the phone numbers turning into early dates?

**Speaker 1:** Some yeah, but a lot of numbers didn't respond and then I worked on my texting. It got better. I got dates. I got actually some lays in the beginning. It was mostly lays on the third date. I couldn't get them home on the first or second date but the third one was pretty easy. Yeah. Sites really improved and I started working on texting. Texting was the hardest part for me to crack But as we spoken with you before, it's something you learn by trial and error. Yeah. Until you until you understand it. But one thing I understood that sexual things don't work because I had this really nice thing that I thought is really funny. I went to my grandma's house and she has like she's 70 and she has three books in her bookshelf like three books of from the 50 shades of grey series. Your grandmother? Yeah. And I sent it as a thing to girls that hey, I'm a good grandson and I visit my grandma. Look what she's reading. Yeah I got some girls who blocked me after that. Yeah so being too explicit, being too verbal. Yeah don't don't sense sexual things it almost never works. It's not and when it works the effect isn't as good as it's not it doesn't really change anything. So my advice is just don't be sexual and texting at all. Focus on building a bit of comfort, a bit of attraction with funny things. But mostly just get the girl out as soon as she responds well like fast and with long text just get her out stop texting, go on a date and do your job actually play the game instead of like sitting and pressing buttons on your phone.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah, if you're feeling really horny then put your phone down and have a wank. That's what I say to my students. I say, I don't want see you do it, but the moment you've shot your load, you will not send her those errors. Yeah? Pretty much. Those errors come from having a few beers late at night usually with students, and then the then the dick picture happens. And she might Oh, no. I I never said one. Might she might even she might even enjoy it that evening, but the next day, she's vanished. You know? So Yeah. But anyway, well well, how how many did it take you or how long did it take you until you got a lay?

**Speaker 1:** Oh, no. I got my lays pretty fast actually. I got my lays even even before I started the even before I started the counting sets because I just followed the advice I got way before when I when I daygamed when I get those 50 sets, just someone either it was you or that old London guys before before. Yeah. And they said just take her by the hand and go home. That's what I did. And she asked me where are we going? And I said, we're going to mine. She's like, okay. I just I just went by the book. I didn't complicate it. I didn't invent shit. I just read what's written in the material and I just implemented it and wow surprise surprise it fucking works.

**Speaker 0:** Okay. It didn't take long at all. It didn't take long at all as soon as I started following material. Guys are listening thinking, oh, that's the end of all your problems. He cracked the daygame, then he cracked texting, then he cracked the dating. Well done, Robert. That's not how a roller coaster works, is it?

**Speaker 1:** Well, recently had a daygame burnout because when you learn game, you learn the system, you learn the structure, you follow a structure. It works so good that after a while you just get bored.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** And you're like, I don't wanna do this copy paste shit anymore. Yeah. And moving away from the failures slowly is really short story. And so I went on a date with a girl. She came back to mine, but she had some medical procedure two days ago. I don't know how it's called in English. A sex change. She had a beard. Let's hope it wasn't bad. No. And she couldn't have sex because of that. And it was fine and she went away and another day we're going out on a date and everything's going well and we're going back to mine and I know we're gonna have sex. But I'm thinking I'm tired of this copy paste shit and I don't really want to sleep with her. And we're we're right at my door and she says listen I think I'm not gonna go come in today. And me as as everyone as most people listening know that whatever you say to the girl, she will come in. She has already been here. We had a nice second day. She's coming in regardless of what I say. But what I did was, oh, well, okay. That's fine. Bye.

**Speaker 0:** The power of the push. Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** No. No. It wasn't the power of the push. It was just I realized I'm tired of this, like, fucking girls I don't really wanna fuck and that aren't interesting to me anymore. And I came to a point where I just was happy to set to to send the girl home. Okay. The accidental

**Speaker 0:** power of the push. That's rock star level game. Yeah. You weren't trying to game her, but by the sheer act of telling her to go away, that's when girls become obsessed.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. But I didn't respond to her text later. Didn't Poor girl. Talk to her because I realized I don't wanna I don't wanna sleep with her. And I I I really started thinking, who are the girls I wanna sleep with? Well, that's good. That's a sign of abundance and obviously non need non neediness. Yeah and actually the one of the greatest things I gained from or learned from daygame and found in my life was I had this ex because I told you I was gonna say tell a story about my ex. And when we first were back at hers, she basically told said to me, you can do me whatever you like. I have no limits. So I did the craziest thing I could imagine. And I asked from one to 10 how hardcore was this and she said to Wow. And we did we did all the BDSM shit and the threesomes and like anal on the first date and whatever the first lay and and whatever. And to me she was like a nine. There was some I didn't know girls like that exist and if I lose her then well I was what's the expression under the thumb? Yeah under the thumb. Yeah because I thought she she's she's like that and there are no girls like that. And we broke up and one of the first girls I slept with from daygame was like one hundred eighty slim with huge fake tits who really liked hardcore BDSM shit. Realize there are a lot of girls like that. If you are the guy who can show that world to them they become crazy like the good girls turn really really bad. They do shit they've never done in their lives. They're the ones Because you're the guy. They're the ones I call shapeshifters,

**Speaker 0:** you know, real shapeshifters that yeah. And they're always the ones perhaps you would least expect when you meet them on the street or sometimes even on that first date. You're sitting there thinking Yeah. She sounds bloody dull, know, that she sounds really boring, God I hope it's not missionary position you know.

**Speaker 1:** And then and then after Sometimes it's the girls who have dreamed about that stuff and they have never tried

**Speaker 0:** They've never done anything like that. Well God bless us because what are the highs? I mean you throw in some more lows if you want but have you have you had any other experiences from daygame where you thought fuck me this is is different to having a girlfriend?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. As we spoke when we met in the spring, it's sometimes when you when you start daygaming or or you come out of relationships, you have a very few options. You don't have that many girls you can sleep with. And then you reach a point at which I was when I met you first for the first time is I had too many, the way you call them maintenance fucks. Basically the girls you have to fuck once a week to keep fucking them. It's a nice problem, but it's a headache. It's a nice problem. And I really had it. I had everything I wanted like the short, the tall, the rocky, the good girl, the princessy, like everything. I had all of it and I was tired of it. I didn't want it and what is the best feeling daygame has given to me is I can sit home during the day and just ask, what do I wanna fuck today? Is it a girl with large breasts, small, tall, short? Do I want a chill evening where we can watch movie, drink some wine, and then have sex? Or or do I want just some brutal beat beat the same on anal? Or do I want a threesome? Or or maybe I just want to read a book. You're a bad bad good man, Saint Robert. I

**Speaker 0:** love the way you're called Saint Robert as well. It just adds to the irony of filthy Another

**Speaker 1:** another high that I I really I really enjoyed. It's actually guys probably have read the the last lay report with the actress that I that I sent to you. And it was a high because even though it was a late that happened in three and a half hours, I like oxytocin. Yeah. There was a lot of it and it was really nice. Like you just sometimes meet someone you're really connected to and then she goes away and then you see another one and find another really great connection. Many I many called them like basically every girl I fuck, I love her. Maybe for three hours.

**Speaker 0:** I I get it. I get it. But but that's that's that's really nice. Because it's a common it's a common criticism of players when guys will say to me, but you have no connection. You feel no love. It's so empty. And I feel like just shouting from the rooftops. It's it's it's the complete opposite. It's so many love bubbles that I feel often like a dreamy teenager. I'm in love for a day and then I'm in love with the city, you know what I mean?

**Speaker 1:** Exactly.

**Speaker 0:** It's it's more love than I than I've ever had with one static girlfriend.

**Speaker 1:** And I thought about what what brought me from those lows to those highs and I I came down down to two things. Because some guys say I like this coach, some say I like another coach or everyone has their opinion in game. Yeah. And I have a really simple formula to get like success with the game. It's just right material plus right people around you. And if someone argues that let's say Mode one is really good book, then I'll ask them, okay, how many lays are you getting? How many opens do you have to do to get a lay using mode one? Or how many opens do you have to do to get a lay using RSD methods? Any other

**Speaker 0:** It's field testing. Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** And for for me the best material really has been I read Street Hustle. I watched Stealth Seduction. Stealth Seduction was actually something that opened daygame for me on a new level because I noticed some things that you haven't spoken on any YouTube videos that weren't on Street hustle but I heard them in your sets. Oh you need to tell me. Especially because I've run out of material. Really simple. The last second of talking LMR where you're basically naked in a bed and it's almost p and a v, but she's still like, I don't know, I don't know. And nothing works. I had this with a really nice girl and nothing works. I knew I found things that worked up to that point. And she really opened up and wanted to go on. Yeah. But at that point, she was like, no, I don't know whether it's a good idea. And I said, oh, are you feeling free right now? Are you feeling the pressure? No, I'm feeling really good, but this doesn't work. And then I told her, when I saw you on the street in your pink dress, you were such a good girl. Wanted to fuck you so bad. Yeah. And that's why I learned from self seduction. On some occasions on the last second you really started talking dirty. Yeah. That turned them on so much that they just like

**Speaker 0:** Logic at that at that point logic is the worst thing to do and and a guy will say, you know, but why? You're naked. But why? You're horny. I thought you wanted it, you know?

**Speaker 1:** No, it's just about turning gone. So we gotta switch

**Speaker 0:** off that forebrain and talk to the the brain that's millions of years old, and that's why the hand on the dick move works. It sounds a funny one when I always say g y d o, get a hand on your dick, but it's I think it's even in the book The Evolution of Desire, why women are turned on by seeing men who are hard. Yeah. It's it's it's just hardwiring, quite literally. And so, yeah, good. Well, I'm I'm glad that I'm very proud that my mother will be proud you enjoy those filthy audios.

**Speaker 1:** Exactly.

**Speaker 0:** Let's move on, if you want, to a little bit of technical game or a technical talking point, which is a very popular talking point, a very popular question right now in the daygame pickup community, and it's both, I think, correct, and I think it's not correct, and that is different kinds of girls, kinds of situations and filtering. So you see girls on the street, they come on a date, and in your head you try to put them into a box and say, well, she seems like this, so I'm gonna do this. You know what I mean? You you were talking to me a lot. You were talking to me about that, and some of your techniques I thought were good and correct, but when I met you, I warned you that it's a difficult road to go down because it it brings up some very dangerous beliefs. Think in I'm not saying in you, but in a lot of guys, especially new guys, when they say I'm only gonna approach that kind of girl or she looks like this, so I'm not gonna talk to her. You know what I mean?

**Speaker 1:** Exactly.

**Speaker 0:** So what what how were you approaching it? You were saying you've discovered, I guess, speeds, and we're talking really about calibration. Different speeds, different girls, different dates.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. So first of all, like a disclaimer. Don't do this on the street. If you say this girl is like that, then or that girl is like that. And this is that type or this is another type. It's just a weasel not to open a girl because she's not your type. She's not hot enough. She's like bitchy or whatever. You're just telling yourself, you're just making up reasons not to open her. And you're opening one type of girl. You're getting good with one type of girl. And that doesn't really lead anywhere. And one other thing that happens is I call it meta weasels, is you're limiting your growth in game just because she looks like a princess who

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Has a rich husband or whatever. And you find whatever reasons to not open really, really, really hot girls. There's an even more worrying level, I believe. You know, the inner game one of the purity fantasy or the quest for the quality woman, you know, which is which is not which is not just bad for your game, but it's it's a complete misunderstanding of simple biology and secret society, where some guys I really know say, I will not approach a girl who looks like a smoker, or I will not approach a girl with plastic boobs, I will not approach a girl who has tattoos because she's a slut, but somewhere there is a library girl, and that reveals to me something much more alarming than just getting lazy with your daygame, you know, because, if you've got enough data, if you've had enough days, you'll know that, the quiet ones quiet ones are horny and often the horny looking ones, as we said last time, they they don't put out.

**Speaker 1:** Exactly. You you just you

**Speaker 0:** just don't know. I so I say to the student, go and find out. Go and find out. And and as I said to you, Enrique, often I don't know until right at the last minute when she's on my bed and I do the final escalation, and then you get a good surprise or you get a bad surprise.

**Speaker 1:** I call it the wet finger test. The

**Speaker 0:** litmus test. Yeah. And, some of those rock and roll looking girls, they leave, and some of those really quiet, shy religious girls, they explode. So I've I've I've stopped predicting. I've just stopped predicting.

**Speaker 1:** Practical terms, how do we approach it on dates? It's it's it's pretty simple. But what we're talking about now is yeah. It's it's basically, it's advanced calibration. And you're looking you're you're you're following the regular structure, the regular dating model. But you look at I look at two really different things. I look on the stereotypical good grow bad grow thing. Mhmm. Basically, is she a stereotypically like quote unquote good girl? Who's like quiet, wears like polite dresses and no cleavage and all that stuff doesn't party too much etc. Or is it she a stereotypical bad girl who is the two smokes like starts talking about sex etc etc. Yeah. But that's one thing I look at. Another thing is how does she respond to physical escalation?

**Speaker 0:** Yeah, compliance.

**Speaker 1:** There are girls who are really quote unquote good girls. But when you escalate, they let you escalate. So what do you do? Well, you keep escalating, you get them back to yours and they will quietly take off their pants and spread their legs. Mhmm. But let's say there is a girl who is a bad girl, quote unquote bad girl. I'm just talk I'm not talking about good and bad. It's just a stereotype. Understood. Yes. Something that something that the guys would call a bad girl. And if she is quote unquote bad girl and responds to physical escalation, that's that's really easy. It's like the easiest easiest girl to sleep with. But you you have to know, but stereotypical. In most cases, you will get some games from those types of girls. If she's bad quote unquote bad and if she's okay with you escalating sometimes like in the end of everything they will play the biggest games. Yeah I have

**Speaker 0:** a short story about this then, but it's so it's so Let me just jump in with, this is an interesting thing I say to students who who who have just that black and white image. I say, who is more horny? The the party kind of tattooed smoker girl or the quiet Muslim library girl? Which one's more horny? And the student obviously says, oh, the party slut. She's so slutty. Well, who has more sex? It's, yeah, maybe that party girl. So she's really not in need of your same day lay because she might have had the guy yesterday, but that library girl has been waiting four months for you to stop her.

**Speaker 1:** Strong attraction but then really chill out, push her away and let her seduce you because that's that's her drug. Some girls really like to seduce guys and they they hate when someone really is trying hard to seduce them. Yeah. A disclaimer for the beginner perhaps is I would just have one one date model

**Speaker 0:** and go for it. You're gonna do better if you just go for it every single time. For your what you're really saying, sir Roberts, is pretty intermediate advanced where the guy is measuring his levels of attraction comfort and seduction all at the same time. That is what calibration really means isn't it?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah, that's complicated. But for the beginner, I would say a really simple thing. I started complicating it and like trying to build really strong comfort and go on walks with the quote unquote good girls. And I decided, fuck it. Ain't nobody good time for that. Yeah. Just go with the model. If she says no, she says no. Open 10 other girls that get 10 new numbers, go on three new dates. You will fuck one of them. Don't worry about complicating things. Just follow the models, sleep with them and you will start complicating things probably at around 1,000 dolphins and like 25 plus lays from daygame. That's when that's when it's okay to start complicate things because you are intermediate at once at that moment. Yep. Keep it simple stupid

**Speaker 0:** kiss. Exactly. Definitely have a have a verbal escalation plan, have a physical escalation plan, try for the bounce even if she looks so sweet and quiet. Just try it because you're probably shitting yourself anyway. So yeah. Good stuff. Well, any more stories about highs or lows?

**Speaker 1:** Or I have two secret society stories about

**Speaker 0:** quote unquote good girls. Oh, this is music to my ears. Tell me. So

**Speaker 1:** mid mid January I'm in this shopping mall in in the center of Riga and I opened a really cute looking girl who's a dancer. At the end of the set, she says, I have a boyfriend. Yeah. Well, I didn't I don't think I recall my answer, but I just like, didn't react or whatever. And we go on a date, and she actually tells me how how she really liked my response to her having a boyfriend cause all the guys basically, she told me that's a test.

**Speaker 0:** Beautiful.

**Speaker 1:** To have a dude will react and if it's if it if it's fine with the dude, it's fine with her. Yeah. And we went back to mine. And she is texting her boyfriend that she is out with her friends at some bar, we're finding out until what time the bar is open. So she doesn't so she so the boyfriend couldn't figure it out. Yeah. And in the end she goes to the other room. She was a she was a girl that I first offered her to stay over because it was really late. Yeah. And only then I tried to escalate. I won't go into details why that's advanced shit. Mhmm. And I listened to her talking to her boyfriend. Oh, yeah. Hi, sweetie. I'm really tired. I just go I just got home and took shower and now I'm going to sleep. See you tomorrow. Love you. Kisses kisses. Blah blah blah.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Well You know, can you guess on stealth seduction which one makes guys the angriest? Which one have I had most emails about? I'll give you a clue. It's with Craig.

**Speaker 1:** Wait.

**Speaker 0:** Which one? With Craig? The the three something? Yeah. The one? Or which one? Yeah. It's that girl because because she was on that she wasn't on a date, but she was out with that dude who was looking after her. And then when she's just finished banging me and Craig, she the the phone calls on the product. She says, hi, babe. And he says, where are you, darling? And she says, oh, I had a headache. I had to go home from the club. I was so sleepy. Anyway, I love you. Sleep well. And and when you when you hear and see the secret society right in front of you, you either have a meltdown or you laugh. I mean, I I felt I felt bad for the dude, but it that's it. It's raw. It's biology, What's your other secret society story? A more crazy story. Yeah please.

**Speaker 1:** So I met this girl a few months ago and we went on a date and she's been single for a while. Hasn't had sex for nine months. Hasn't ever had a hasn't ever slept with a dude on the first date. Yeah. Hasn't ever had a one night stand.

**Speaker 0:** What an angel.

**Speaker 1:** So well I fuck her on the first date. Bad bad man. Yeah and but we kind of every girl I meet knows I'm into BDSM because I have ball gag and ropes just lying around in my bedroom.

**Speaker 0:** Just lying around.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah yeah so that they know what's going on and we start talking about it and she says, wow, that's so interesting. I've done stuff like that. And we start experimenting, and it goes darker and darker. And let me remind you she never she has never done it. She's like quote unquote good girl. Yeah. And a week ago, when I met you on the street, was going to meet a wing of mine. And we went to the seaside climb up some lighthouse just chill out and I'm we're going to the lighthouse and I'm asking him hey like let's go back later and double team the girl.

**Speaker 0:** Anthony would be proud.

**Speaker 1:** And I just sent to her a text that she's going out in ten minutes. Say you have ten minutes to send me a picture with something inside of you. You're bad, She sent me a picture with a butt plug in her ass.

**Speaker 0:** But she's a good girl. She's a good girl.

**Speaker 1:** I told her half past eleven, let's meet at this address. You're gonna have an adventure. Oh, And we did it. And a few days ago, on this weekend, well, when we're recording this a few days ago, together with her we went to a hippie ish music festival.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** Where all we did was we open sets together with her. Beautiful. As a way to find another girl for threesome. We didn't find threesome because when I started putting glitter on another girl's breasts in the forest and started kissing with her. Well, the girl I was dating didn't feel so comfortable with that after all. Yeah. I actually told her listen, you can you can go away as you plan because I'm anyways going to keep doing this. But she decided to stay and we kept doing it. We kept undressing girls and putting glitter on their boobs and yeah. So a really good girl. Yeah. Was my wing. The festival. A search

**Speaker 0:** for a threesome. That's beautiful. And I wanna finish with one more disclaimer, because this is a common misunderstanding, and I know this podcast will generate this email for me. Right? Yeah. Guy guys will listen to you and me talking, and they'll say, well, you're both wrong, because I know girls that have been great girlfriends, and I know girls that have been psychos. And now, I'm not saying that there's just one type of guilt, I'm saying, as you agree, I think sex first, and then after you've had a lot of casual fun sex, you can decide if she is sexually compatible, if she's cool, if you share the same interests, if you're gonna have an open thing. But, so indeed you can at one level filter after you've had lots of sex with that girl to keep her, basically, but the point of today's podcast is to say stop filtering before sex. Does that make sense? That makes total sense. Because I think I told you in Riga that one of my best girls from last year, when I met her, daygame was really boring, the date was boring, I had sex with her, it was pretty shit, starfish sex, and I kept seeing her because she had really nice long legs and she was Ukrainian, and I think after about three or four bangs, maybe a month, she started getting interesting and opening up, and she became my bisexual wing girl, and she was really fascinating. And if I had just judged her on the first date, I would never have seen her again.

**Speaker 1:** But my rule is if even if I keep seeing someone but just for fun and I've never had a talk where is this going I just say where is what going there is nothing going on, what are you talking about? Whenever I see a girl more than one, two, three, four, five times, it's not even once a week, that's too often for me and I will see many other girls. I will keep sleeping with new girls and new girls and new girls and new girls. I never I'm I just don't like it. I'm bored by that.

**Speaker 0:** But no one's bulletproof, Robert. I can assure you in the next five years, maybe two years, you will suddenly get an oxytocin hit and be blindsided. And, it used to happen to me once a year. Thank God it didn't happen to me last year.

**Speaker 1:** But I already had it with the same delay.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. It's that, the players have the opposite problem, a lack of oxytocin. Yeah. But, anyway, that's a that's a different topic for a different time. But god bless you. And, how can guys contact you? Because this is not a blatant plug or a butt plug, but you're not a full time daygame coach, but you do offer coaching, and I've from meeting you, I'm sure you're a solid guy. If you're in the Baltics as in Vilnius or Riga, how can they how can they email you?

**Speaker 1:** They can pretty much go to my website which is strobert.blog. I think it will be in show notes probably. Yeah, I'll put it on the notes. They can send me an email at robertstrobert. Blog. And on the website, you can now as well see I used to do mailing list, that that I don't like it. Yeah. So then I just created a WhatsApp group on the Facebook group. So the info is on the website or will be on the website. Just join the Facebook group, join the WhatsApp group, ask questions. Maybe if you if you're just coming to Riga and are experienced and want to meet some guys, just post it post it there. There are some really cool dudes. Yeah. Get in touch with me. Get in touch with the community because I'm pretty much organizing the community and doing all the meetups and everything. So, yeah, just reach out to us. We're really open. Many blessings.

**Speaker 0:** You're a you're a good, bad man. And with that, I shall say goodbye. Goodbye from Saint Roberts in Riga. Goodbye and keep hustling keep hustling that was podcast a 161. How do we say goodbye in latin?

**Speaker 1:** You can say

**Speaker 0:** Beautiful. Goodbye.