--- title: Episode 36 Q&A Gold Mine episode_number: 36 era: early source_file: Episode 36 Q&A Gold Mine.mp3 audio_size_mb: 69.9 duration_sec: 2289.0 duration_min: 38.1 language: en provider: deepgram model: nova-3 diarized: true confidence: 0.998 transcribed_at: 2026-05-27T17:16:05Z--- # Episode 36 Q&A Gold Mine **Speaker 0:** Tom Torero, podcast 36 from Birmingham. Alright. Up here in the Midlands. This is where, or very close to where, I trained to be a teacher. Everybody sounds like that. Actually, I was in, Walsall in the black country. If you're British, you might just understand that. If you're foreign, good luck. Anyway, I've been here for a couple of days charging around the bullring in true to aero fashion with a student. Keeping cozy from this British icy drizzle. Nice to be here rather than Brazil. Yeah. So not daygaming in London. Totally possible. Think of Birmingham. Think of Cardiff. Think of Manchester. Think of Liverpool. Think of Edinburgh and Glasgow. Glasgow's bloody good. Huge pedestrianization just like Cardiff. Everywhere is linked. Not a car in sight. It's just pure foot traffic. Hit those cities when uni's in, obviously much better. You'll find warmer, friendlier girls certainly just for the initial opener which is good for students, doesn't have that hard London edge. So decentralization is the name of the game certainly for my coaching at the moment. I'm enjoying traveling here, there, and everywhere to coach. I feel like a door to door salesman. Sales is game. Game is sales. That's a topic for another time. Anyway, today's podcast might be a little bit of a mammoth one. It's another q and a with your uncle Thomas. Pull up a chair by the fire. Get your whiskey. Get your cigar in hand as we delve into the mailbag which is once again brimming via Twitter and Facebook and my email and YouTube and Pigeon Post, whatever. I've been off the charts like I said last time on the Atlantic. So lots of questions have come through. I'll see how many I can get through in half an hour if not a little bit more. First one is from eric twenty two. Alright, Eric. You say, how do you feel about people copying your stuff? I know what you mean, Eric. You see, things that I've done appear in video form or written form, same kind of video, same kind of website, same kind of teaching style I guess. And you know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery or the greatest form of flattery. I'm happy that on one hand people like what I do. They think it's worthy enough to replicate or successful enough to replicate. Of course it's annoying if something's not tied down, if it's something that I've done perhaps in a seminar or I sit on a podcast or I sit on a video and then somebody else replicates it would for it, that's annoying. If it's a blatant rip off, I mean, an exact replica, that is a big annoyance. Occasionally, I email people to to remind them that it's my work. Some stuff is is beyond the realm of copyright. You could say it's intellectual copyright and it just makes you negative, puts you in a bad mood if you're constantly chasing people who rip off your stuff. But the daygame community, the street hustle world is very small. So I know these guys. I know most of the the successful daygame as you could say in the world. So it's something that I can keep tabs on for now. Who knows in the future when it gets bigger and bigger? I don't know. But anyway, I try I try not to let it affect my vibe, and you shouldn't either. Yeah? Keep it all nice and positive. Alright. Next question. Cameron. He says Moscow versus Kiev. He asked lots of little questions about those cities, in particular how to deal with the bitchiness, the Russian minute out on the street and girls with little or no English. And which one obviously is better Moscow or Kyiv. I have dealt with this a lot Cameron. If you read, Torero Travels, there's stories from both Moscow and Kyiv and I detail those cities. But it all comes down to this one fact Moscow has about 12,000,000 people, Kyiv has about 2.8 coming up to 3,000,000 people. So just that one fact alone should tell you which city is better for daygame, has hotter girls. In terms of the Russian minute, that's just, getting that nice alpha frame that, our selected frame we say in daygame where you have boundaries on bullshit, you have a strong frame, you can overcome her shit test with either non reactivity or calling out the elephant in the room, you're persistent. A little tip I've said many times is to have less teasing and more challenging. In the Soviet Union, former Soviet Union, don't really get the whole super dry ironic role play witticism thing. Some girls do but in the majority it's better to just hold your frame, stand your ground, persist, lead, escalate, dominate, and go for it. Boundaries on bullshit. B o b bob as my friend Steve says. Girls with no English? I've answered that question many times. It's totally possible. It's even better when they don't speak English because it's subcommunicated with your eyes and your body language. If in doubt, use a bit of Google translate on your phone on the date. It slows you down. And when they say they don't speak English, they do. A, it's a shit test, but b, they're just embarrassed about their level of English. So rather than opening with, hi, do you speak English? Open with, hey, you look like you speak English. I think you look beautiful. You look like blah blah blah blah blah blah. See what I mean? It really slows you down. You have more time to think. You only have to say half of the stuff and you get a nice low slow voice. Use your eyes as well. Watch street hustle videos on Tiger Eyes, Maradona Move etc. Alex b, similar question, how do you handle princess behavior? Same thing as my dad used to say, whatever a girl says is a shit test. Okay? So dealing with shit tests you have two possibilities. Number one, non reactivity. Occasionally laying down boundaries but largely non reactive with that cocky smile. Think of Daniel Craig in Casino Royale, not the new James Bond movie movie sadly, a letdown, shocking. And b, you agree and amplify, that's the cocky funny. Alright. So never take it seriously. Princess behavior, you just, keep it cool, nice and cool and when you need to, especially with former Soviet Union girls, like a good teacher or a good parent, watch. Yeah? Boundaries on bullshit. You call it out. It's all part of manning up. Alex also says, if you don't pull the trigger in bed, does she lose respect? Yes, she does. Very recently, I slept with a beautiful Polish 20 year old girl and she she liked the fact that I persisted through her token last minute resistance and she said she spent all summer with this Polish guy down by a lake sharing a cottage. They had separate beds but in the same room. She knew he liked him but not once did he make a physical move. He tried some chodi kissing by the lake but he had all those nights to make a move and he didn't. It's the man's job to try, it's the woman's job to resist, obviously in that tango playful polarity form, it's the definition of the game. Okay? You have to keep pushing the boundary. But like a clever salesman, not pushing all the way to no, just short of no. You want that yes ladder of escalation. Yep. All old school game stuff. Soon, he asks, what do you do if a guy appears in set who looks like a boyfriend? I'm gonna talk about this on a separate street hustle video. It's a good topic. Many times I've already talked about cock blocks. If a guy comes in and you're not sure who he is, straight away talk to him. Don't just carry on talking to the guilt. Talk to him, smile and address it. Say, sorry man, is this your girlfriend? If he says yes, shake his hand and say, well done man, she's beautiful, apologies, have a great day and walk off. I've done that more than a dozen times when a big guy's come in and they love it because they're proud of showing off their Ferrari girlfriend, yeah? Many times when you say to the poor guy, sorry, is this your girlfriend? The girl will look at him and go, oh, oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. And that poor guy's lost the frame immediately. He's probably the gay best friend. In that case, bring him into the set. It's a two set. Or ignore him completely in true night game anti cock block style if you've got balls and good frame. He also asks, this is another question, girls who are dressed very sexually, what compliment to give them because you don't want to obviously over compliment them yet. That's often called beta bait. A girl's dressing very provocatively because she wants you to look at her tits, she wants you to have your tongue hanging out of your mouth. So you're right, mister cool, you are going to compliment her but you're not going to over compliment her. If anything you're going to amp up your neg. So the pull is when you say I think you look nice, the push afterwards is when you say you look like a very glamorous nineteen eighties giraffe or you know, remind me of little red riding hood. It's very adorable taking cakes to your grandmother. Good girl. They love it because they've tried hard to impress and you're letting them know that you like them, that's definitely with your eyes and your body language and your cocky smile and the fact that you jumped in front of her, that's very dominant. She knows whether she's ovulating or she's a horny milf or she's just wanting some attention. She knows you've stopped her to hit on her but then you take it back with a nice cheeky push away power. The push, that's the definition of attraction here, breaking rapport, not putting her on a pedestal. Dean, he says, at this level of game, what other challenges keep you motivated? Good question, Dean. Lots of guys that started pickup daygame around the same time I did 2009, 2010. We've done a good five years of it now and it does lead to fatigue and burnout and you achieve what you wanted to achieve. So for me what keeps me motivated is communicating what I've done, teaching what I've done, passing that on, clarifying it, simplifying it, that's the name of my game so people can understand it, that gives me a kick. Traveling, as you know, that's one of my huge passions. Traveling, living before I die. That's the definition of of life, really. Live before you die. Suck out the marrow of life as the great poet say. You wanna feel the experience of being alive rather than trying to work out all the time what it means to be alive. So taking life by the horns. Yeah? By those horny horns and that's girls, but girls are the carrot on the stick to travel, doing things yourself, trying new things, meeting new guys, learning new skills, pushing the boundaries, manning up, becoming more quote unquote alpha, becoming more of a badass but combining it with that tranquility of the Buddha, the badass Buddha. That should be your aim. That's my aim. And girls are just the conduit, the carrot on the stick to to gaming yourself, the Trojan horse into yourself as I've said many times. But good question. A lovely bastard, good name a lovely bastard, he asks a very serious question. What food do you eat before a big daygame session? Well if you've seen my expanding waistline from twenty ten to twenty fifteen up and down because of my comfort eating, my traveling and my focus on women rather than on my personal fitness at times, you know that often I don't give a shit. Right now I'm trying really hard because on that ship across the Atlantic for thirty days, there was very little exercise and too much food. So I'm addressing that balance with exercise and body weight exercises and nutrition and eating clean and blah blah blah, you know the score. But on a serious level to answer that question, you want slow burning, slow release food. You don't want sugar highs. You don't want loads and loads of coffee or Red Bull where you're gonna crash. You want that slow release energy of porridge, one of my favorites. Bananas, my favorite. You could even say a bit of pasta, you know, stodgy carbs, jacket potato, like before you're doing a half marathon or a marathon and some breaks in the session. So when I'm teaching a session, I do a maximum of two hours straight in field and then a sit down cup of tea, banana snack, whatever. You don't want those crashes in blood sugar, which will make your mood volatile. Therefore, your vibe will be volatile. Okay? Ryan James. What's your honest opinion of this guy? He says, sending me a link to a video by John Cooper. What's your view on him and pickup? He says, honestly, I feel weird when I go out and do daygame. Well, Ryan, I hate to say it, but, I don't dislike guy but I really dislike what he's pushing and preaching. I've said many times it's creationist. This whole natural game be yourself, anti game movement. I hate it. I'm starting more and more like Richard Dawkins to teach the evolutionary biology and the Darwinism of game. Game is life. You could say game is politics. Game is sales. Every time you buy something or sell something, you're in the game. Every time somebody with their frame beats your frame in an interaction or a meeting or a presentation or an interview or with a girl, that's game. You can't get out of the game. I love it when guys say, oh, was gaming her or should I use game in this situation? Game is life. The very definition of life is game, survival and replication, fighting, foraging, and fucking. So when a guy says there is no game, but you've got it within you, just do yoga, meditation, find your chakras, chant, and all will be well. Well, that's just a PR campaign. Guys love dissing game because game is tough. Daygame is hard. I've said that many times and if you offer a guy a cheat solution like, lose a stone in a week or make a million dollars by clicking on this link, of course, that's good clickbait. And in itself, what guys like John are doing, is game because they're using a marketing strategy, an anti game strategy which is in itself game. Alright? Marketing sales, that's all a form of persuasion. Hustling, street hustling is daygame. Daygame is the hustle. That's why I call it street hustling. So if you feel weird going out and do daygame, that means you're not comfortable selling yourself or selling something or persuading something. It means you don't wanna do it. And okay, here's a straight answer for you. Okay, give up on my advice and just go out there and be yourself for, let's say, half a year, see your results. And then come back to my techniques and read some sales, read some cialdini, read some books on frame, read some books on manning up, persuasion techniques, hustle techniques, and then try daygame. See which one works. Okay? End of story. S t f n sounds like the name of a hipster electro group. He says, can we talk about game, quote unquote, game, when to the other party when the other party doesn't know it's a game? Well, same topic as Ryan James. Women have an instinctive understanding of the rules of the game. They know they're in a game on a subconscious level in terms of alpha fucks, beta bucks, procreating, tying a guy down, getting resources for their endgame, which is, having babies. That's what they want, the alpha DNA, but they want provision as well. So they know this, and they feel the secret society stuff on a very instinctive level. Watch 50 shades of grey or certainly look at the phenomena of, women understanding the secret society. So it's men that have to learn the game. Okay? Men have to really learn the game because of so many misunderstandings from early childhood and teenage years and I call it the Disney myths of oneitis neediness. So men have to learn to play the game. And again, STF, and you sound as uncomfortable with game as Ryan does. So really zoom out and think what is game and realize that you can't escape the game. Even having a girlfriend or getting married, that's not an escape from frame control and learning social dynamics. End of story. Matthias, let me find your question actually, mate, because it's a it's a very specific one. Okay. Back to biology. He says, if the r selected species are prey species like rabbits and mice that have their population limited by predators like eagles and wolves and not by scarcity of resources and they therefore reproduce like crazy and have low parental investment because quantity over quality matters. Well, that's right if you're looking at R and K in terms of binary. It's an old model. It's not used by biologists anymore, but it's a good framework certainly for explaining nice guys and bad boys. If you're not sure about what I'm talking about right now, go back to my talk with Krauser on the r k spectrum, on monogamy versus polygamy, on lovers and providers. That's all on this channel. Matthias goes on. And k species are predators that have their population limited by scarce resources. You're right. And therefore, reproduce less, invest more in their cubs because quality matters over quantity. You're correct. Then the alpha fox, beta bucks equation is only significant for k species because r species are simply indiscriminate. R selected females are not hypergammas. Then wouldn't r selected daygame be a misnomer? Being alpha selected daygame is correct term. Please school me from my biggest Brazilian fan. Cheers, mate. Sorry I didn't bump into you wherever you were in Brazil. It's a good question, but it's very binary. You're taking it literally. Remember that r k model is an outdated biological ecological model, it's useful for understanding big ideas like the nice guy versus the bad boy, the provider versus the lover. And you have flagged up a point When we're talking about r and k, we're only talking about this as a strategy for men. You have to assume, and quite correctly, since the agricultural revolution, the women are playing the k game. They want quality. They're looking for provision of resources. They're looking to raise a child. Yep. You could say in the party years, 18 to 21, she she fucks around for some nice alpha DNA and for some sexual reference points and experiences, but it's men we're preaching this to. So focus on yourself. Are you k? That means provider. You could say beta. You could say playing the boyfriend role. Or are you are selected? Are you going for the quick fucks, telling her what you want, not hiding your dick, strong frame, being polygamous. Yet, I've talked about how it's not binary and there's lots of stages in between, and you can find the sweet spot, the badass Buddha spot of being perhaps an our selected boyfriend or an our selected husband, certainly more healthy mentally, you could say, being a a player for life, an our selected man for life. But I I hope that answers your question. Do you see what I mean? If you don't read the evolution of desire by professor David Buss or read sperm wars by Robin Baker or even go back to Richard Dawkins' The Selfish Gene if you're interested in the biology beneath daygame and game. Silver says, what resources to use for starting out? What an exhaustive, exhausting question, Silva. This channel enough, hopefully, gives you everything you need. My beginner daygame video on this channel for free gives you everything you need to get started. The game is played infield. How many times do I have to nag you? 90% of learning game is outside talking to girls. The 10%, you could say it's enough just to be on this channel watching the beginner daygame video, maybe the texting video, and my dating guide. That is enough. He asks me also about Justin Wayne, a New York daygamer, and how Justin switches between sometimes opening indirect and sometimes opening direct based on how bitchy the girl looks. I can see why that's a strategy certainly for very nervous beginners who don't wanna feel the blowout. But in the last three years, British daygame has led the way because we've just put our balls on the line and said, just tell her what you want. Just go direct. You're gonna get more no's. You're a bit more pushy. We say it because of what it does for you as a person underneath the bonnet. Okay? It's making you a lot tougher. And even with the bitchy responses, shit tests are good. You learn about frame control. You learn about manning up. It's a lot better for your AA. Of course, there's times, and I'll come back to this in another question, when it's good to go indirect or indirect direct, situational. But as a beginner, learn direct daygame first. Okay. R G L M. What a cheeky bastard. A pushy, cheeky bastard. You could say needy or you could say nice and persistent. He asks me 16 separate questions on my YouTube channel. Jesus Christ. I'm not gonna go through all of them now. Perhaps if you want a Skype session with me to go through all of them, then drop me an email. But let's pick out the big ones. You've given me a breakdown of your stats, so that's personal data. I'm not gonna go through that. But just an offhand comment, you're not approaching enough. Alright? 30 to 50 approaches a week. You say you do more video and theory than action. Well, you've got the ninety ten balance wrong. 30 to 50 approaches a week, that's going give you a bigger data set. Alright. A question about wearing glasses. Do you think you should do contacts? Yes, I certainly think guys wearing glasses should at least try contact lenses and if you're happy with contact lenses after a while consider laser eye surgery like I did. I know the kind of hipster look very recently has been for big thick framed glasses. I know it makes you look a bit more sensitive and soulful and, you know, you got your beard and your comb over David Beckham hair. But try the freedom of not wearing glasses because of that tiger eye, that beautiful eye contact you get with a girl. Go for more of that rugged look. Push yourself in the direction of art. Of course, later, you can swing back to glasses and, combining the badass and the Buddha. But the majority of guys listening to this podcast and doing daygame even are too nice, are too, vanilla, too bland. You're dressed like everybody else. Perhaps you are a hipster. It's it's been and gone that phase. Get into your leathers. Get into your biker look. Get into your suits. Get into your dapper James Dean. Get away from what everybody's doing. If you're doing what everybody else is doing, if you're wearing what everybody else is wearing, then something is wrong. You've got a question about The Philippines. You game foreigners in shopping malls. I was in The Philippines, and it was fine gaming Filipinos in the malls. Sure. You can start off with foreigners. They'll give you more friendly responses, not more friendly sex, but friendly responses initially. But get into your local girls. German guys don't like approaching German women. American guys don't like approaching American women. English guys don't like approaching English girls. It's a weasel. It's just one of those classic things you need to power through. You beg for me to answer a question on the spotlight effect. What do you do with the spotlight effect? If you don't know what the spotlight effect is, gentlemen, it's again a massive weasel that guys have about people watching them. You assume because you are the center of your universe that therefore you are the center of everybody else's universe. Everybody's watching you shop security, crowds of people. That's why guys don't like jumping in front of girls or doing seated cafe sets or high pressure situations in airports. The real answer is a tough answer. It's tough love in that you're not the center of the universe. People certainly in big cities don't give a shit about you. You could lie down naked on the streets, I always say to students, and people would just step over you. People might look at you for one or two seconds when you do daygame, but guys are usually jealous and girls usually go, oh, that's so romantic. Alright? If somebody gives you a funny look, so what? That's part of daygame. Game, manning up. Don't give a fuck what other people think. Of course, don't be socially retarded. I'm talking about social intelligence. If you wanna do some of those prank warm up social freedom exercises, I've got a nice bad boy video on this. Go through my nice bad boy video series on my YouTube channel. And one of them, you see me doing these social freedom exercises of climbing up lampposts, spinning girls around, doing press ups in the street, just going crazy. So you feel you make yourself feel like people are watching, so you get over this ridiculous spotlight effect. And it is something you can get over. You might need to battle through each time you go out and do it, but, you can certainly minimize it or you can desensitize yourself to it. Alright. Moving on. Bricks. Dry spells. How do you deal with dry spells? Obviously, without compromising game if you take a bit of time out. Everybody has dry spells. It's good to have an off season if you've been hitting it hard. Dry spells means you're probably gonna be a bit more nice. You're gonna be needy through lack of abundance. Your voice is gonna be high. You're gonna be talking too fast. You're gonna be running out of things to say. You're not gonna be as witty and as sharp. You're gonna either not try on the date because you're scared of fucking her up, or you're gonna be so horny that you're gonna jump on her and make out in the corner like a horny teenager. You're gonna burst the bubble, she's gonna run away through ASD or LMR. It's just a question of jumping in there again and accepting it's part of the game. Alright? I've taken time off. And like right now, when I jumped back in in Birmingham, I was a little bit rusty. But after an hour, two hours, five hours, and now two days, a good ten hours of solid daygame on the street, I'm back into the groove. There's the concept which I think comes from bodybuilding. Obviously, me being one of the world's greatest bodybuilders, that if you lift a lot and then you take time off, your body, your muscles retain that knowledge. So you can get back in the game. You can build quicker than, let's say, a skinny, or a skinny fat beginner like me. It's the same for daygame. So if you've done a lot of daygame, when you jump back in, it's easier for me than a guy who's just starting out. So simple answer. I know it's you want probably a better one, but just jump back in, accept you're gonna be rusty, and crack on with it head down. He says also about The Philippines. He's have I tried Southeast Asia? Yes. I have. And, of course, it's easy to bang girls there. They're not my preference. I don't think they're hot, but I wouldn't call it game. Alright. This is white man god complex syndrome. Same with Dominican Republic and Cuba or borderline prostitution for some guys. In The Philippines, in places like Manila, you'll see really old fat guys like in Bangkok or Cuba with 18 year old girls. Now it's provider game. It's gold digger game. It's passport game largely. You even see this in The Ukraine. Guys are not applying any game at all except their resources. They girlfriend up these girls. They get married to them very quickly. The girls are gaming them. It's a very clever move. I don't blame girls for it. If you were a hot 18 year old, that's the way to get an American passport and some dollars, yeah, to hang around shopping malls. Don't kid yourself it's game. So certainly don't do it if you wanna improve your game. I wouldn't go there just to get notches because it leaves you feeling a bit weird same as, you know, girls in Cuba. You know that they're not banging you for your r selected persuasion, hustling, game abilities. You know it's a transaction. Sure. When I'm 60 or 70, fat, whatever. Yeah. That's most likely gonna be my game. When you really can't play the game on my terms anymore, do it then, or do it as like a bit of a laugh. I've been to these places with guys or students for a bit of a laugh. Just a bender, like a hangover, a stag do bender, but don't do it as your main form of game. Xander. Good old Xander. Great Xander. Xander the greats. My my buddy down in South Africa in Cape Town, an amazing daygamer, a man with a lot of charm and charisma and strength. He asks about MILFs, mummy game, women 30 with strong frames. I know what you're talking about and certainly in places like Moscow, London, and New York. You have very powerful women, older women that are lawyers, doctors, bankers. They're gonna earn more money than you'll ever see. They drive better cars. They live in better houses. So let's come back to the point. They're not looking certainly for resources. So k game doesn't work. The the beta boyfriend stuff doesn't work. The cocky, cheeky, poor, scruffy alpha game really works. So you wanna amplify the cocky funny. You wanna overcome her shit tests with agree and amplify. You want to say to her things like, I can't believe, you know, you're seducing me, an innocent toy boy. You wanna do what pimps and max do. Yep. Flip it round. So she's treating you, taking you out to dinner. I've done this where girls have flown me to their city, bought me stuff, taken me for rides in their car. One German woman in Dusseldorf who worked for Deutsche Bank, she let me have her apartment for a week. She fed me in exchange for sex. So you definitely just wanna be the sex guy. Don't play the boyfriend role. And the stronger the woman, the more she wants to be dominated. So the more you need to man up. Okay? It's really important to learn boundaries on bullshit, overcoming princess behavior and shit tests with them, just holding your ground and accusing them. They spend all day in very powerful worlds and they long to be dominated. Okay? So that's gonna be your job. He also asks a teaching question because Xander is a coach down in Cape Town. If you're in South Africa and you want daygame coaching, Xander's the guy to go to. Email me if you want contact with him. He's getting into coaching and he asked a good coaching question. What real mindsets to give first time students to make their first few approaches smoother? Because Xander's a very tough guy and and perhaps tough love is not the way to go with students. I agree. It's all about baby steps and getting those key reference experiences. So it's not even about phone numbers and instant dates and dates and lays. For them, it's about becoming social. So don't overburden beginners with theory. It's about action, jumping in there. And if they're shit scared, start indirect, you know, asking for the time, asking directions, compliments, hit and run, then baby stepping the model. That's why I break it down. Have a look at my toolkit form on this website. Also, I've done a free audio guide where I talk you through these things. So listen to that, then pass that on to a student about how to baby step it. Okay? And it's encouragement just like a child learning the alphabet or a child learning to count. Lots and lots and lots of practical examples and encouragement. Also, do some demoing because guys learn from osmosis. Keeping that vibe light, not overburdening a student with heavy theory. When I started teaching, used to load on the theory so much because you wanted to tell the beginner all about the fundamental principles of game and all the nuances of street hustling. But now much better to chunk it. Of course, it's different. If you get an intermediate or an advanced guy, yeah, you can dive in and micromanage things and have a go at him. Some students, yeah, they do need tough love, but only after you've used the speaking softly approach. Final questions from Luke. He says, can you give examples of the indirect direct type of day game? I've talked about this in my books, and on other podcasts, how indirect direct really is the pinnacle of game if you can pull it off. You can't rely on it because it requires you to spot these social situations where you can call a girl out, you can accuse her, you can make a cocky comment. You shouldn't rely on it. You can't really learn it as a standalone technique. I say first, you should learn direct daygame, then do indirect game if you're on an airplane or a long train ride or a coach trip or it's a girl at work or a girl in your college and it's a slow boiler. But occasionally, you just get these lucky situations and I find them in airports or in Starbucks or in supermarkets or if I'm in a shop with a student and I see a girl picking up a dress, and I might say I just might go over or walk past to smile at her and say, yeah, should buy it. I've got that. It looks beautiful on me, but I've got it in pink. You should definitely buy that. We could, we could be doppelgangers. And just smile, and she'll smile back. Of course, like in direct game, you've then got to transition. So I call out the elephant and say, ah, only joking. I wanted to come and say hello. You're cute. My name's Tom. What I noticed about you really was, okay, into your direct London daygame model. If she's shopping in the supermarket, you can see some cat food in her bag, in her basket. I say, you know, you you should really eat less of that stuff. It messes with your stomach. Cheeky wink. And then back into the direct stuff. If she's on a bridge, you might walk past and say, don't jump. Somebody loves you. And then introduce yourself, Maradona move, tiger eyes, proximity, Torero toe into the spike and into the stacking. Yeah? Or luckily, a girl might walk past and yawn, and you can stop her and say, uh-uh. No yawning allowed. Gotta fine you. Or when I often do with a student when I take him into a department store, we did it yesterday in the ballroom, you see one of those makeup girls really bored, doing nothing at the makeup counter in a department store, she's just kind of shuffling around, pretending to polish things or move things. And I say, uh-uh. Remember what your boss said? You're not allowed to move from this spot. Come back here and then take your hand and bring it back to a spot. And so you gotta stand there. That's what you're paid to do. And by the way, I don't believe what anybody else says. You're doing a good job. That's a cocky funny line. A nice little spike. Despite what everybody else says, I still think you're nice. Try that one out. There you go. Let me see what the time is. On the clock, that's just over half an hour. I think that's enough q and a for today. I feel like I've answered a lot of those questions many times before, but from the nature of the questions I get and the regular emails I get, I can still see there's this massive need for fundamental game knowledge, basic game knowledge. You can never clarify simple points enough. And that's part of what my new project is all about, which I'm working hard on in the background. That's why there might be a little less content than usual. Hopefully, by Christmas or the New Year, my new baby will be born, and it will solve a lot of these niggling, nagging questions and clarify a lot of these muddy game concepts. Guys are still confused no matter how many times I try to explain things like frame or shit tests or even the London daygame model. How many more times can I break that down? There's a video on this channel. Guys email me and say, what is the opener? What do I say? How do I get her number? What is the best place to meet women? I'm still getting travel emails about what parts of London should I game in or which cities in Europe should I game in. And there's podcasts on those topics. And if you're daygaming, you should be diving in and trying anyway. Anyway, rant over because I did ask for questions, so my fault. Little reminders as upsells at the end. My final coaching of the year, Saturday street hustle sessions. It's one day, five hours, streets, cafes, malls, coffee shops. It's the full model broken down, live in field with a maximum of two students. It's £400 for the day. My last two sessions, one is on Saturday December 5 in Central London, and the second one is on the Saturday, December 12 in Central London. Currently, there's still one place on each. I've got one guy booked for each Saturday. First come, first served. Email me, tom@tomtorero.com. I'm off to Japan November 13, back on the November 30, doing some coaching there, hitting it hard with a wing, going on some Japanese adventures. But I'm Skype able once again. I'm not on the Atlantic, so my Skype training can commence, will commence. Wherever you are in the world, if you can't come and do one of those Saturday street hustle sessions with me, you wanna go through your sticking points. You wanna play me some audio of you in field. You wanna talk about texting or wider issues, like unplugging, becoming self employed, relationship issues, whatever. Give me an email about that for hourly Skype coaching possibilities. Tom@TomTorero.com. That was podcast 36 from Birmingham. See you next time. Torero.