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# Episode 47 Interview With Bob (London Bootcamp)

**Speaker 0:** Tom Torero podcast 47 in the middle of London. Actually, I'm on the job, so I'm killing two birds with one stone. Not literally. I don't advocate killing women with stones. I'm in a cafe with a student. It's Sunday. It's day two of training. It's a two day training session with mister Bob. Alright, Bob? Hello. How's it going? Alright, man. Cheers for allowing this to be recorded. What we're gonna do now, we just sat down and we're going to go over quickly what happened yesterday, the points we finished with at the end of the day, and then plan today. Now yesterday was Bob's first day really of direct street game. We did at least About twenty? Twenty sets probably. Central London, it was cold. It was a bit windy and rainy, but we did street shops, cafes,

**Speaker 1:** and we went from, like, zero to hero, basically. We started out with anxiety. Yeah, very scared like I was so scared before I came. I was literally shaking. I wanted to skip it. I was thinking of excuses, didn't want to go. I was like, oh, maybe I'll text them saying I can't make it. But yeah, I came. I came. Came.

**Speaker 0:** Value's great. So that was the first thing I saw. You're 20 early twenties? 22. 22. Value sorted in terms of fashion, grooming, fitness, social calibration. So I was like, okay. Thank the lord. This is good. And then I looked at you and I thought, okay. Anxiety. This could be one of those days where you'd refuse to approach. So we went to Trafalgar Square. We go there because it's full of dreamy tourists. We did three, four, or five hit and runs. Can

**Speaker 1:** you just go over how you warmed up quickly and how it made you feel? Yeah. So I was really nervous at the start, then Tom sort of told me what he was gonna do. He was gonna do some warm ups. So just to start off with, just to get me a bit more comfortable. It was I think the first three was just go up to go, give a compliment. So, hey. I thought you looked nice, and then leave after. So have a nice day. So no no pressure. And adding on what you noticed about it? Yeah. So for the fourth and fifth, it was adding on what I noticed. So it'd be like, if shed green hair, I'll be like, oh, I really really like that your crazy green hair, whatever. Have a nice day. Yeah. Focusing on

**Speaker 0:** eyes and voice. And again, thank God, suddenly I saw, you know, your eyes were strong, voice was low, posture was good, girls were giggling, remember girl is your mirror. So after those five in Trafalgar Square, I thought, right. Thank fuck for that. This guy is ready to jump in. So we moved to Covent Garden, find some nice English lasses, and you were jumping in front of them. You were doing stationary ones. Now we get to the big sticking point, not just of you, but of every student, ninety nine percent of students. She goes, excuse me. I think you look nice. What I noticed is and yesterday, we were doing them. What I noticed is you don't look British. I'm guessing you're from whatever. And then that girl said, no. I'm from Morocco. Did we have a Morocco one? Yeah. Morocco. Morocco, Italian, Lebanese, Yemen, British, Chinese. That's why we love London. Alright. So what was the strategy yesterday that we need to practice today when she tells you where she's from or what her job is? So

**Speaker 1:** Tom was saying when she says where she's from, so say you said, oh, you look Indian. She's like, no. I'm from I'm Moroccan. So you'd you'd build a story from that, from whatever she said. So you'd stick to the topic. What I was doing is I'd be like, okay. Cool. And then I'd ask her, like, another question or maybe make another assumption. But you're saying stick to that topic.

**Speaker 0:** And don't just talk about that topic, like, normally. But the key, the secret sauce that you just saw when I did that waitress, the secret sauce is to take the piss, accuse Yeah. Yeah. So all that all that banter as well, teasing. Exactly. So as you're doing, obviously, you know, don't forget to add the teasers, banter, and whatnot. Otherwise, it just turns into like a friend, like, little friendly chat, she just made you. Here's a catch 22. So we went out yesterday, and, you know, you were getting that brain freeze because it's like information overload and you were cold and there's a bit of nerves. When she gives you the topic, every guy, his brain shuts down. So this is why just for your first few days, weeks, you gotta have something in pocket, your like, in your back pocket. You gotta have something ready. So yesterday, we were saying she she gives the topic and some simple things you can say is, oh my god. Or I like to say then, you know, oh my god. My mother definitely warned me about Czech Republic girls. You guys are crazy. You can tell a story about your friend, third person. Oh my god. My friend was there, and he said that. Accuse. Accuse. Accuse. Accuse. Accuse. Now that works 50% of the time. What happens if it doesn't work? And she's just looking at you with a completely blank face. So if it doesn't work, then you

**Speaker 1:** can move on to what they do. So like their job, you could guess that and then What's an easy go to phrase that works on every girl? You look

**Speaker 0:** creative.

**Speaker 1:** I don't even know. Any

**Speaker 0:** girl in the world, you can say. Another thing I noticed, you look creative. Yeah. The only problem was that is when I used it yesterday, that girl was like, oh, two of a daygamers ever True. Because it's a Tom Torero staple. Yeah. It's been on many a video. So, yeah, you went sometimes with what did you say? Lawyer?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. I said you look you look like a banker, an economist. And then I'd I'd also play that on with she was a nerd for the teas Yeah. And the banter. Yep. Okay.

**Speaker 0:** So that's what we're really nailing today. Not just nailing women, but nailing that. To try and get the hook, you know what the hook is. You saw me do the signal. What else did I tell you to do after the hook when you're just doing the boring chat and I was doing this this hand movement? So

**Speaker 1:** because I was I do quite a lot of night games. I'm very high energy, very physical. So Tom was saying sometimes just calm down a bit, you know, let her talk, slow it down. And what did I say about you telling her? Oh, and also tell her some information about me. So after the set, it's not like I just met this crazy confident guy, but I kinda know stuff about him. Yep. So she'll remember and she won't flake. Yep. Three basic things.

**Speaker 0:** Alright. The last two sticking points was niggles, and this has to do with frame. I know in the beginning, the first couple I watched of you, I was like, uh-oh, this guy is a little bit nice. He's the classic kind of friendly London guy. And then thank God when we went to Seven Dials, I saw you switch to night game mode, do the hand of God, grab her, persist. Almost like spinning her around. Almost classic night game, but it was fine. So the niggles. Right? Today, you're gonna get a lot more niggles because we're in Central London and we're going to Oxford Street. So you're gonna get, I've gotta go. That's a shit test. What are you gonna say when she says, no. Thank you so sweet. I've just gotta go shopping. So I'd say one more thing before you go and then just continue. Yep. Or emergency,

**Speaker 1:** you can just Yeah. Or if I've tried that and literally she's just gonna go and just get the phone out Yep. Exchange numbers. Because yesterday we had two or three girls where that could have happened.

**Speaker 0:** Alright. You pull out your phone and she says, which happened twice, she says, oh, I don't really know about this. Why don't you give me your number?

**Speaker 1:** So yeah. Whenever you give your number out to a girl, it's very unlikely that they're actually gonna call you back. So I yesterday, that happened to me once. I just didn't accept it. One thing you can do is try go for the Facebook, if anything because that can still work, and she might in her mind, she might be like, okay. I won't give him my number, but I'll give him the Facebook instead. She wants to check you out. Yeah. Yeah. So as long as you got a good Facebook, you saw it. Yeah. Or

**Speaker 0:** remember that sneaky trick, Take her phone off her, put in your number, and press call. I've done that a few times. Or you say something a bit cheeky like, listen. I approached you, so I get the number. 50. 5050. Let's swap numbers. Or a common one on my videos is I say, listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. I'm gonna send you one message. Right? I'm not gonna sit in a tree and stalk you. I'm gonna send you one message. You can decide. You can delete my numbers. Cool. I'm not bothered. And that kind of takes the pressure off. And many a times she's like, okay. Okay. Okay. One message. What was that was that? And okay. We had yesterday, she said one girl said, how old are you?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Because the you know, you look you look youthful. So what did you say to that? Oh, so she was an older girl. I think she was about 30 or so, and I'm 22. So she could tell I'm a lot younger. She was like, how old are you? I was like, I'm 20 oh, no. No. I was like, I'm 15. So I decided to, like, I didn't care. Yeah. It's like messing about a bit of banter. So Very good. That reminds me if she says,

**Speaker 0:** I have this boyfriend or I'm kind of seeing somebody.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. To be like,

**Speaker 0:** yeah. I'm not trying to be your boyfriend. Yeah. And then carry on as normal. So I think it shocks a lot of guys, especially in London when you get these little niggles or you get the bitchy face. But I'm telling you, London and New York and Canadian cities and Australia, you get this very these tests, you get them most of the time. So we gotta be ready for them. Alright. Putting out your hand today a bit more. So the handshake, but holding. Yeah. Cheeky persistence. Three three things about me. Yeah. Three facts. And not giving up as quickly. Like Yeah. Definitely. At least going for it. Right. Situations. Street was easy for you. Shops, we I think we could do a bit more of. Yeah. Shop assistance.

**Speaker 1:** That was more difficult. I reckon inside street was pretty good. Cafes,

**Speaker 0:** we did one very high pressure one yesterday. Yeah. She was trapped. That was good. When I was like crazy crazy. I was just no. It's night game. We were doing like night game negging. So I reckon we should do another cafe one. What I just did then with the waitress, give that a go as well. And for those listening, for you lucky bastards listening, we'll warm up now and then I'll put the microphone in your pocket and try and capture you, like, on form Yeah. With with this banter, with this you're very good yesterday when you were on form with being quite cocky in a nice way. You were, yeah, accusing her, flipping it around Yeah. Yeah. Blaming her. All the classic stuff that only comes out after about an hour. Like, we we we're both a bit sleepy. It's Sunday. We need to warm up. And it's funny, isn't it? How yesterday you finished the day with amazing vibe, strong energy. You wake up on Sunday. Yeah. All stifled. Yeah. Not not as bad as yesterday, but obviously not as good as the end of the day yesterday. Yeah. It's one of those things you gotta accept, mate. And I've been doing it six years, and I wake up, and I'm like, oh, daygame. Right. Fucking hell. Come on. Do it. And then I do the first one, Rusty. I do three. Nice guy. I do an hour. On. On. On. So for all those guys listening who go out and they do two and and and go home, man, what are talking about? You know? Desensitization, jump in, say fuck it right. Let's go.

**Speaker 1:** Hey, excuse me. Yeah. I just saw you over there. I was standing with my mate. I thought you looked good, so I wanted to come and say hello. Hi. What I noticed about you is so, like, focused on your phone. Are you, like, on some crazy hangover shopping spree? No. No. You didn't go out last night party? No. No? You still stayed in? Yeah. Good girl. Thank you. Always hitting the books. Live library girl. Yeah. Another thing I noticed, you look quite Indian. Yeah. You are? Yeah. Okay. Cool. You? Try guess. No one ever guesses it right.

**Speaker 2:** Can I have a hint?

**Speaker 1:** I just have one random guess. You might break my heart though, so be be careful.

**Speaker 2:** I think that's Indian as well. So it's safe. I'm

**Speaker 1:** gonna go home and cry now. No. I'm actually Colombian. Oh. But I always get like Indian, Pakistani, all of the Asian countries. Yeah. No one ever knows I'm from. Yeah. I have I have no identity. Yeah. So I'm assuming you're, like, a student here as well? Student. Yeah. University student studying arts? Yeah. Social sciences. Social sciences? Yeah. So you're like you're good at reading people. You know, I'm not here to rob you.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Know. Not quite good at reading people first year. So Ah, you're a fresher. Should've known.

**Speaker 1:** So I'm actually at University of Oh. What do you think? But I'm back for a couple months. I was sick when I did my exam, so I got like, basically take it like year out. Oh. I'm studying economics. Boring as hell. Yeah. Yeah. So boring. At least you're doing like relatively fun subject. Yeah. Social policy. So as fun as it could be. Yeah. What's it like about sort of The history of welfare in The UK. Oh, I'm about to fall asleep. Yeah. Nah. Can't be as boring as economics. Trust me. Like, it it seems professional, all we're doing is like reading graphs all day Yeah. Counting money. My my friend does economics. First year as well? Yeah. Yeah. First year economics is really easy though. In fact, all all first year things are really easy. So you should be out every day partying. You should be on some massive hangover right now. I'm okay then. You you don't do partying too much? No. That's good. You get a good grade, I guess.

**Speaker 2:** I actually have to go because I have to meet my friend Roobit, pick up her birthday present. So Yeah. How old is she turning? She's turning 19.

**Speaker 1:** 19? Yeah. What what are you thinking again? One of these crazy bags? No. No. I'm gonna go look around, see what I can find. Okay. Cool. Well, you gotta go. I gotta go. But listen. Let's keep in touch. Mhmm. I'll take down your number.

**Speaker 2:** I'm actually seeing someone.

**Speaker 1:** You're seeing someone? Yes. Are you are you married to them? No. I'm seeing someone too. So it it's fifty fifty. Okay.

**Speaker 2:** Why don't I give you my Facebook instead? Facebook? Yeah. That's cool.

**Speaker 1:** Are you seeing a crazy Indian guy? He's gonna come beat me up. I wouldn't call him crazy, but Economist. Indian is on point. Always. Okay. Also,

**Speaker 2:** Autocorrect. Yeah. It's autocorrect in my name.

**Speaker 1:** So what is it? So just click that one. That's it.

**Speaker 2:** Okay. I'm just gonna let you press add friends. Okay.

**Speaker 1:** Is your profile, like, blocked or something? Yeah. Oh, you don't like people adding you? Okay. No. I'll I'll shoot you a message.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Yeah. You should be able to send me a friend request. It's not that blocked. Cool.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Well, I'll shoot you a message. It'll be cool to like, you know, whatever. Chance off. Okay. But, yeah. Nice meeting you anyways. You too. Keep keep tame that crazy Indian boyfriend. Okay. Alright. See you in a bit.

**Speaker 0:** Right. We've just stepped out of sneaky selfages. We've had a listen to that in fields. So what did you think, man?

**Speaker 1:** At the start, was definitely a tough set. She wasn't giving me much, but I remembered everything you told me, stuck to the topics, followed the model, and yeah, eventually, I I managed to get the close, Facebook close, is just as good as the number. Yeah. In that situation, yeah.

**Speaker 0:** You passed all the tests like the first one, I have to go. Second one, I'm kind of seeing someone. I love that word seeing someone. If you don't live in Britain, seeing someone means I'm just fucking him once a week. Yeah. And you played it cool. You didn't react. Yeah. It was a little bit short, but if guys listening could have seen the situation, it was in a very crowded basement of a shop. There was a security standing next to Security guard, so jelly. Yeah. And she had genuinely had to go and buy that present. What was most impressive was that she gave you nothing for about two minutes. Just she was nervous which is I find with Indian girls, same with Asian girls. And even though she gave you tiny topics like India, studying,

**Speaker 1:** you managed to keep it going. You didn't have that brain freeze. Yeah. So I kept stacking and then when I got nothing, another assumption,

**Speaker 0:** you know, telling stories.

**Speaker 1:** She hooked off the geography, didn't she? She said, where where are you from? Yes. As soon as she said, where am I from? I I knew I could sort of not so much pressure that it was it was on. Yeah. I could relax a bit more. And you told her

**Speaker 0:** three things about you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She told her information about me. So So all that sticking point stuff we talked about in the morning Yeah. Basically sorted that out. So the rest of the day is making making stuff more solid and going for harder stuff, getting some more shit tests. But going forward, it's all about that first sixty seconds, the the story, the topic. Definitely. But it's getting a lot better. It's getting a lot better. Because you didn't kiss her ass, you laid into her. Yeah. A lot of banter as well accusing Yeah. And if if a guy's listening, you have to understand that when you were doing that banter, Bob, you were smiling with your eyes and your smoke. If you did that, imagine you did all that banter with a straight face. She would have said, Bob, fuck off. Yeah. And the American guys I teach, they find it really hard to understand banter. Yeah. You definitely have to have a smile on your face, I think, and make it playful. Yeah. Especially,

**Speaker 1:** because what I was doing yesterday is I was negging, but then sometimes it might have come across as a bit rude. So now I go, oh, but I love that. I love that. So I kind of Yeah. Finish it with I love it. It's daytime calibration Yeah. You know, in a nightclub. Should see how she's reacting. Different. Yeah. Brilliant. Right. Onwards.

**Speaker 0:** Right. End of the session. Knock it. But very good. Having a coffee, and we're gonna wrap it up with what we just spoke about action steps. So you've got the list of things you're gonna work on. Any things come to mind from what we've just done?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Just keep working on, you know, my storytelling,

**Speaker 0:** keep practicing. That feeling of wanting to eject?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. I'm ejecting quite a lot. So staying in set a lot longer, forcing myself to stay in set, also doing a lot more inside because when I'm inside, I find the streets a lot more comfortable. So I need to get used to doing inside ones. And that little trick we just did on that girl from the Midlands calling out all the awkwardness, calling out the elephant. Yeah. Remember that one in Topshop? Yeah. Yeah. So if the like, because there's people around, he was like,

**Speaker 0:** I know there's people like hearing this. Yeah. I know you're I know you're eating your sandwich. Yeah. I know this is so weird. And when you have that little bit of brain freeze or panic, remember on the set before, you say, oh my god. Sorry. My mind has just gone completely blank. I don't know what to say to you, but I'd like to take you out. So at least go in for him. Yeah. Yeah. Because I reckon another two or three today, we probably could have got the digits. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Like, I'll let quite a few of them get away, but still still Hey. It's fine. Think of the jump from yesterday to today. Yeah? Yeah. Complete completely different. Like, when I slide off yesterday, so scared. Now end of the coaching, I'm like, what? Doing good sets? Yeah. Yeah. Three sets of contact details. Yeah. And you you ticked off all the you ticked off the sticking points we talked about at the beginning.

**Speaker 1:** So Found a new sticking point at the end, which was the not too much banter.

**Speaker 0:** Oh, yeah. Yes. So Do you wanna just quickly explain when we noticed that it was on Oxford Street with a crazy

**Speaker 1:** hot cat girl? Yes. So I stopped her. She loved me. I was just telling jokes, bantering, and she was loving it. She couldn't stop laughing. So obviously, I I thought, yeah, is this good. And I kept doing it, kept doing it, smashing it with jokes. I was thinking that it was a really good set. After it, Tom was like, it was too much. Calm it down a bit. Move on to seduction. Once you've hooked her, there's no need to carry on all this dancing monkey stuff entertain.

**Speaker 0:** Because the day is different from the club. Yeah? Yeah. So what do they say? Ove egging the pudding. Yeah. So not getting addicted to attraction because that was my sticking point. It still is. If girl's having a great time and I feel like I'm the world's best stand up comedian, I do what you did. And you brilliantly destroyed her. Like, it was a master class in everything she said because she gave such great topics. Like, was weird and nerdy and introverted and she had cats. And you just went you just killed her and she loved it. She got battered, man. She got battered. But then right at the end, you could see her thinking,

**Speaker 1:** like, woah. This guy is is something is not right about this guy. Yeah. Like, it was it was way too much. He's probably thinking that, yeah, it's so funny. Crazy guy, but Yeah. You know? Can you be normal? Can you Keeping it real. Yeah. Can you not crack so many jokes? Yeah. So moving into silence, eyes,

**Speaker 0:** handhold, awkward silence that you and me don't like. Talking about, you know, the topic talking about the topics more Yeah. Without so many jokes. Oh, and we said that get the last piece of the puzzle for you, getting her to qualify. Yeah. So qualifying need to work on that as well. Because I've I've worked on everything else, but this is a stage I didn't reach yesterday because I was Oh, yeah. No. Qualification comes for most guys months down the line, but Yeah. You can do it, man. It's basically saying jump through my hoop. Like, I'm the guy with value. I'm George Clooney. Who are you? So remember those cheeky little questions like, well, listen. How tall are you? Or listen. What do you do for fun? Or why have you come from where did we have today? We had Israel. Yeah. So we could have said to those girls Turkey as well. Yeah. Turkey. Turkey. She say, listen. Don't understand. Turkey's hot and beautiful at this time of the year. Why are you in London shopping? I don't understand. Yeah. And what that does is flip it, and she's now, like, trying to explain herself to you, justify herself to you. Or quizzing them about so say I say where I'm from, and then I'm like, what do you know about this country? Yeah. Yeah. And rather than than doing it in a jokey jokey way, which is what we like to do, actually do it seriously. You know? So so sorry. Why why are you x y zed? Why is such a great question? Anyway, you're now yourself into this and you've got a schedule. I know you're very into, like, fitness. So you're gonna treat this like

**Speaker 1:** fitness schedule, yeah, or a martial arts schedule. For sure, I'm gonna nurse into it. I'm gonna, you know, hopefully get really good in a few months. I'm gonna keep out, keep out. Yeah. And, you know, you said I've got a lot of potential, I think Yeah, man. Big things. Yeah. Definitely. It'd be good to meet up with you whenever in a few months, chat again,

**Speaker 0:** guy do some daygame. Because a guy with your focus at your age, it's very, very rare. Yeah, man. I'll hear you up soon. Cheers. And thank you, Bob, for being on this podcast. Say goodbye to all our lovely listeners. Bye Podcast 47. Thanks again to the one, the only Bob for a great couple of days of infield London training. Enjoyed it. Thanks a lot for contributing to the podcast. I hope you guys found that useful listening to some real infield breakdown along with a student audio infield. Very, very useful. Some updates to finish. The Tom Torero hardback street hustle daygame toolkit bible is basically done. 99.9% done. Text is finished now. It's just about illustrations, layout, proofreading. So I think we're a couple of weeks away from launch. Keep an eye out on my YouTube channel and my website for updates. I'm off now to Singapore to do some coaching and then The Netherlands to do some coaching and then to Austria, to the Austrian Alps with some daygamers for some skiing, for some snow back into the European season. So I'm looking forward to that. I'm not in London for a while. Although I've got a training thing this weekend, but after that I won't be doing a lot of street hustle training in London. So if you would like some Skype coaching, if you want me to go over some m p three recordings of you infield, talk about sticking points, blind spots, we can micromanage things, then I can do that from anywhere in the world. So feel free to get in contact with me, Tom, at tom torero dot com. We'll talk about what kind of Skype coaching you want, if it's to do with your daygame or your texting or your dating or relationships or even this kind of nomadic traveling minimalist lifestyle stuff that I'm also doing too. Get in contact. Like I said, Tom@tomtorero.com. If not, I will speak to on the next podcast. Ta da.