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# Episode 55 Daygame Data

**Speaker 0:** Tom Torero podcast 55 from Central Europe. Now before we dive into today's podcast, which is an interview or rather a chat, a catch up with a Polish daygamer and an up and coming coach, I wanted to tag on this beginning. Something I forgot to say. A cheeky little upsell. It's one of my live talks. This one's in Central London on the May 1, Sunday May 1 twelve till 2PM. Last year, the theme of my talks around the world was below the belt. This year, it's black sheep. And this is the London talk. It's all about doing your own thing, holding the frame, both with life and with girls. There's going to be a Q and A. There's going to be a session with daygame drills that we're going to be doing in the seminar. And this time I'm charging £10 a seat, not to make a profit, but to cover my costs. Because my last talk in Central London, we had about a 120, 130 guys show up and I had to book this ridiculously sized room. So £10 just covers my venue costs. How do you book? Click on the link if you're watching on YouTube and if you're listening on iTunes, I'll put the link as well. If you can't find it, go to my blog, tomtorero.com, and there's a PayPal link. Anyway, that's Sunday May 1 in Central London, black sheep. I'll see you there. Now onto today's podcast and our mystery guest. Alright, Thomas. Hello. There's Thomas. Thomas, how do I know

**Speaker 1:** you? When did I first speak to you? Well, I think I've I've known you first from your YouTube videos and and your website. But we first contacted a little more than a year ago. I was buying your Skype coaching because I had some pretty weird issues with my daygame or actually with laying girls. And that's what we how we've how we've met first time. Yeah. The the start of 2015.

**Speaker 0:** But when you contacted me, you weren't a newbie because you came to me. We'll talk about this later, but Thomas came to me with a lot of data, which I like. I like it when I open an email and the client says, oh, I've got all this daygame data. Have a look at it and tell me the truth. And we looked at it and we were talking a lot about the dating, weren't we? Because even then, your your daygame was pretty good. The number closing was pretty good. You're gonna tell us about what was going on with the dating in Warsaw. You didn't start last January, did you? When did you get into game? When did you discover game? Bloody, bloody, blah. Daygame journey. This is called the daygame journey. Every guy has his story. Go for it. Okay. So I first started

**Speaker 1:** doing pickup really because I I I didn't know daygame yet in 2013. That was somewhere around when my second girlfriend in my life well, actually I broke with her, but I was there single,

**Speaker 0:** still young. How had you met those girlfriends?

**Speaker 1:** Well, one was from social circle, the other was from cliche work. So I was working nine to five and by the way, guys don't do relationships in your org, they always backfire.

**Speaker 0:** We should say how old you are as well. Well, right now I am still 29, I'm going to be 30 this year. I like the way how you say, no. No. No. Still in my twenties. Still in my twenties.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. So, yeah, I'm going to be 30 this year. So so back in 2013, was, like, 26. Mhmm. Yeah. And I started at first, I started to do some drills just to get my anxieties sorted out because I wasn't open guy. I've never known how to how to party, how to meet girls. Well, much like like most of the guys that get get into daygame. Mhmm. Then I found one side, the other side, once found some YouTube videos, I thought, I can do that. So for majority of well, for the half of 2013, I was starting to to to get myself comfortable on the streets doing daygame. And I've made that year around 300 approaches. Fantastic. Half a year? Well, yeah, half a year. Yeah. That was that was my stats for 2013.

**Speaker 0:** Now, when when guys listen to these stories, it's always like, oh, the painful bit was, oh, it was fine. And then I got loads of success. But feel free to say the pains of the first 200 approaches. Was it like? You've seen some YouTube videos. You're not a party guy. You're mid to late twenties. You have to go out onto the streets.

**Speaker 1:** What was it like? The worst part about starting the game is the amount of time you're wasting. I've clearly remember myself going out with the mindset of, okay, I'm going to approach at least one girl. And so two or three hours later going home or or or approaching literally anyone to just do my one approach a day. And well, it was like in the beginning, but then after the 100, 200 sets you have to do to, you know, get yourself comfortable speaking to a complete stranger. Mhmm. Well, it became a little easier for me. It was still wasn't that, like, was able to do five or 10 sets every every evening. Mhmm. But it was yeah. I I was able to approach every day. So at least one girl. And this was classic after work, after your nine to five, you go out and you do this

**Speaker 0:** do these drills stripped on yourself like the gym.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah, exactly like that. And since I started in autumn, then came the winter. So I started in a really bad time of the year. But I was I was really determined to to get this through. Mhmm. Because I I've seen that it can be done. And I was somewhere below that anxiety and fears. Was pretty confident like I can do that. If if there are a number of guys doing it,

**Speaker 0:** why I can't be the next one? Okay. Few interesting points that I want as an outsider to comment on that little thing. Number one is that you were in your late twenties. Now you're coming up to 30. So if you're listening to this, you should already realize that that is the best time really to get into daygame because you've built the value and now you're about to cash in and have fun. The second thing is that Thomas has a nine to five job, which is what all daygamers do at the beginning. So again, take that point. You finish work. Yes, you're tired. Yes, you feel shit. Yes, there's no vibe. It's dark and cold, but fuck it. Good day gamers, and Thomas is a very good daygamer, now has you have sadomasochistic tendencies almost. And we're very different from nightgamers because we are quiet, we are shy, low energy levels, thinkers. Often we're too way too forebrain. Great day gamers are pretty nerdy. And the one thing I remember from our conversation in 2015 was this thing with data and tracking and where it probably when I first read the email, thought, oh my god, Thomas is like a typical German student, like you know, way too much data and not enough action. But it turns out that you're one of the rare people who data actually fuels you just like me. I'm obsessed to go out. That makes me wanna collect data and analyze data, but to go out. So we'll come back to that. What was I gonna say before I rudely interrupted you? The age thing, yeah. Starting in the winter, yeah. Oh, yeah. So you you've you've seen these videos online and presumably, you've picked up you're doing this in Polish. That's what I wanted to say because guys are gonna comment underneath that daygame only works on foreign girls and it's okay for Tom doing it in Poland because it's so easy. Polish girls are so easy. But this is Thomas doing it on Polish girls in Polish And presumably, you're following some kind of universal structure from Mystery, RSD, the London guy, somebody.

**Speaker 1:** Well, I've quickly found out the the London guys, and I really liked what I saw. Well, no homo, but those guys really talked to me in way I understood. So I guess that I don't need stupid flashy clothes. I don't need to go out and drink every weekend to just get girls. I can just walk, see a girl, turn my head around her. And I said, what would be like to go after her and, you know, say something? So, yeah, that that that really

**Speaker 0:** was my thing, I think. But if you only take if listeners only take one thing from this, it's that you execute the model. First of all, you find a model and you just ex execute it. Right? Sounds so fucking simple, but if only guys listening to this realize that the model is all out there. If execute it as strictly as Thomas, yeah, you're gonna see massive changes. And that's what we wanted to talk to you about today because we could say every single girl. And now you're on you told me about 2,300 approaches.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. That went fast.

**Speaker 0:** Thousand sets of what do they say? Thousand sets of pain with some glory. But now 2,000 coming up to two and a half thousand. This guy knows what he's doing. Right? Hey. I know your daygame is is steady and your number collecting is steady. I'm sure instant dates are steady, and now you're just you know, it's linear. So now you're onto the bounce backs and the escalation and the blah blah blah. We'll come on to it. But, okay, big number one, big stories, big epiphanies, light bulb moments moments in 2,300 sets. And number two, slightly weirder, things you only realized in hindsight, rear view mirror, you said.

**Speaker 1:** Go for it, man. These these the last couple of years. Yes. So the the the first epiphany actually start happened in 2013 when I was still, well, shit at daygame. I can clearly say that I got no lays my first year. So for those 300 approaches were without a lay. Dates? Dates. Yeah. There were dates. And what was even more for me surprising is that there were bounce backs on the dates. Not from the street, but from the first date I was able to get girls to my place, some of them to bed. I may well royally fucked up things in my bedroom, but Fucked up, not fucked. Yeah. Fucked up, not fucked. That was sad, but still I was learning. I knew that it was going to happen and it still gave me that hope that if I can do that one time, one, two times, then it can be repeated. It's something that actually works. Like you said, a model that you can execute and well, if the results are maybe not ideal, but they are somebody can fine tune it. You don't have to, you know, invent a wheel because someone already did that. So yeah, the bounce back thing was was really surprising that the girl that knows a guy for like two hours tops or two three hours agrees to go to his place when knowing that he lives by himself. There will be no one there, and we'll we we will be drinking some wine. Well, it usually is a quite a big clue what we are going to do.

**Speaker 0:** Let for those foreign listeners about to comment, Polish girls are so sweet and Catholic. They would never do that. I mean, can you smash this stereotype that American guys seem to have about Polish girls that this is like the land of flowers and girls are innocent going to church on a center. I mean, I always say girls are girls. Right? And they are gonna bounce back from a date with a guy they've known for two hours. Yeah. I was going to say that's cliche. Girls are girls, and women are women, and they well,

**Speaker 1:** of course, there's some cultural differences. For example, Polish girls, red reflect. That's that's the thing. They if they decide they wanna go out with you on a date, they will show up. Well, some of them won't, but it's not a big problem. It's not New York or London. Yeah. Yeah. But I I always hear that in in especially in The US, it's a big problem, girl girl agreeing on a date and then not showing up, not writing.

**Speaker 0:** But just it's because they've got so much more to do. Whereas in Warsaw, I think if she agrees on a Wednesday night, that's quite exciting. But in New York, she's got 30 offers for theaters and clubs and bars, you're number 29.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. That that can be the case. But still, girls are girls. Yeah. So so back to what we were talking about. There there there isn't much difference between girls from the Great Britain, England,

**Speaker 0:** Spain. It's the search for pussy paradise, but that's another podcast, you know. But please don't come to Poland thinking this is the land of girls in dresses skipping around, you know, where you'll have no problems. I always say if you have problems in your own country, you're gonna have problems when you travel. Right? If you have problems escalating in America, you're gonna have big problems in Poland escalating. Alright. Anyway, epiphanies. So we said bounce backs even in the first year. That was 2013. What about 2014, 2015?

**Speaker 1:** 2014, I that was the first year I've ever slept with a girl that had a boyfriend. And I never knew how was how how it would be the toll on me. But the things I saw, and I've done that I think twice in 2014, I really didn't care. And what was even more surprising, she neither. There were no absolutely no bad emotions, guilt, whatever. We just decided that we wanna hang out, then we decided we want to sleep together. And it was okay on both sides. And it was like, so I guess all the guy all the things that the guys are saying are true about women, about their nature, and about about the secret society as a You know you know, we were just talking trolls. It's just made me this morning, I opened my inbox.

**Speaker 0:** I always open it with trepidation. Some nice ones. Big one today from a troll in Sweden. And he was fucking mad about that podcast called The Secret Society. He flatly denied it exists. He said that this is completely made up. Blah blah blah. Anyway, so it's weird. When you go down the rabbit hole of secret society and you sleep with a girl with a boyfriend, it's both really cool. You can't go back, but I can see why for some guys and maybe some traditional Polish guys, that's gonna it is quite alarming.

**Speaker 1:** You know? Yeah. They they always say that, oh, she's a whore, not all girls are like that.

**Speaker 0:** I And want a sweet Polish man. Yeah. That that's

**Speaker 1:** that's their image of of girls in general. But for us, especially for for for someone that has been repeatedly sleeping with with girls in relationships, Well, it's not that you don't trust those girls, it's more of you see what they are made of. Mhmm. So that's the thing, it's nothing to get angry about. Yeah. It's just, well, you can say some say biology, some say, you know, things that Yeah. I lost.

**Speaker 0:** I say, yeah, the truth hurts, but it sets you free, you know, in the beginning. Yeah. It does hurt. It's a bit weird. Anyway, that is epiphany. Sleeping with a girl with a boyfriend. Okay. So you're into 2014. What about results? Because guys are thinking, okay, this guy's done a lot of approaching. What what not not exactly, but what was coming, what was rolling, what was getting better? I've

**Speaker 1:** definitely was dating much. And ever since I started feeling good in daygames, which is 2014, I've been date on dates with I think around 60 girls a year. So these are 60 different girls. And I really have to say that right now because all those guys are thinking, wow, now I have not slept with even half of them. Yeah, you have to start somewhere. First you start collecting numbers, then you start going on dates, then you finally after a long time start regularly sleeping with the girls.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Today you mentioned, I think on the way here or earlier, you were having a bit of food, you weren't probably even thinking about miss the daygame mode and something happened.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah, that was that was kind of epiphany. I actually took a number from a waitress that was bringing my pizza because it was pizza place. And I noticed that she she was looking at me smiling and the thing that really was was quite shocking is that I've thought my first thought was that, wow, she's she's trying to hit on me. Because a girl can't ask me, you know, it's a cultural thing. She won't approach me. But she did everything she could, so I would notice her. Secret society? Yeah. Well, and after I finished my meal, she came back. We had a little banter, and I said I would like to go somewhere with different than this pizza place. That's great. Preferably for a drink or so. Well, and she agreed that. And the epiphany here is that even last year I wasn't thinking about girls wanting me. When I saw a girl, her eyes flashing or her smile, I was thinking like she wanted to be noticed. Now I'm thinking well she wants me. And well it's not going to be 100% of the time true, sometimes she's she's a nice girl and she smiles to everyone.

**Speaker 0:** There's a difference in there in depth of eyes, hair flicking, it's very different because a student will say oh that was an IOI and I'll say often it was kind of inquisitive but then there's a real hungry IOI or I would argue it's ovulation. Maybe that piece of gill today is ovulating. And there's a weird depth of eye and everybody else around is working. So then you have to think, okay, fuck, how am I gonna number close? That's often the tricky part in, work scenarios, but that's leveling up because as I keep nagging guys on the fucking videos, right, daygame is not just running around a girl on the street. That's level one. But if you can start just integrating daygame on buses, trains, airports, weird secret things with colleagues, secret secret things with wives and husbands, that's the fucking rabbit hole, you know. So that's fantastic. If that's happening and you're not even in you know, guys go, I'm not in daygame mode or I'm not wearing daygame clothes, but I need to improve my vibe. If you if it's just coming out of you, then clearly, you've internalized loads and loads and loads of the core stuff, you know. And we should say, you can't see Thomas here because this is not a a webcam sex chat, but you're in great shape. He's you work out, you ride motorbikes, you've changed your fashion. I, you know, I don't like the fucking self help thing, but you have hit all the SMV things coming up to your thirties. Yeah, we should say that. Yeah, it's

**Speaker 1:** it's not like I've suddenly realized that girls are looking at me and and thinking I'm a catch. It's more that I've made myself that way. So I'm yeah. I'm I am looking for that IOIs, but I've still done everything I could to get those. And these are two different things because once one is what you are doing well really for yourself. The second is that you you are in your day game or pickup mode and you notice those things. And there's a third thing that you have to be able to actually do something on that. Yeah. You have to approach, have to take the number, have to set up a date and even if you are your smv is through the roof, you notice the girls are smiling at you and you even shut them up and you, I don't know, get them on coffee and then, you know, to have a one hour live chat and nothing happens, then, well What was it for? What was it for? Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. I say you have to deliver the value. But as you're right that even if you deliver it on a date, it's not enough. You know, isolation, escalation, isolation, escalation. That's another topic. Well, it's kind of this topic actually because when I spoke to you twenty fifteen, you were you the data was showing you were getting these dates. And I think we were talking about the dates were quite long. Maybe there was too many venues or it was too deep rapport. I can't remember exactly what you were running in early two thousand fifteen, but how has it changed to now? If you go on a date tonight, how is that different? Oh, it changed after our little talk. And it was I have a funny thing. It was in December 2014,

**Speaker 1:** I believe. I had five or six consecutive bounce backs from first date, none of which ended in LA, sad part. That's why I I realized that I need help with with that part. Yeah. But I was doing long, very chatty rapporte ways dates. And I was spiking. I was, you know, there were a lot of kino. I was kissing the girls on first dates. That was everything was fine, I thought. But the underlying vibe was too boyfriend ish, I could say. So they thought of me as a really cool guy, but not as an adventurer, I think. My dates are much shorter. There I don't even try to get to know those girls that much as as before. We we have obviously, we have to know each other, and she has to feel safe to go to my place to sleep with me. But I thought that I need much much more rapport than it's really needed to get a girl interested sexually. Yeah.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. I I think I said recently, rapport is a blessing and a curse because you do need it because we've both experimented with fast escalation and it looks cool, sounds cool. It's always the best story, but it it fucks you up, especially in Poland. And then you try deep rapport, and then you just get boyfriended or just just chatting for four hours about dimensions of the universe and stuff. Yeah. So it's a sweet spot. It is a fucking sweet spot. But last time I met you in Warsaw, you had this big smile on your face. You were skipping through the park. And I was like, buddy, oh, that's Thomas. Oh, he's looking good. How's your daygame going, man? You said, oh, it's just been like a crazy week. I've had this lay. I think it was a milf or something. You'd had some success.

**Speaker 1:** And I was like, fuck. This guy's leveled up. Yeah. That was that wasn't really a kind of epiphany because I wasn't feeling any different. I haven't realized anything. But there was I think it was only in all two weeks when I slept with four different girls, four ladies in two weeks. And for beginner, for intermediate day gamer, that's that's a lot. Yeah. That's that's that's really something. And it was like, wow, I'm I'm that guy right now. Yeah. I'm in the zone. Yeah. I'm that guy that sees yeah, he's he's sleeping around, but I'm able to do that. And it was a very cool realization that I I really leveled up. Of course, it's it doesn't last. No. Unfortunately, we all would like it to be permanent. But but there is ups and downs, and, well, the the very important thing is the trend. Are those ups higher? Are those downs well, higher too.

**Speaker 0:** That you've you've given us the theme of the podcast, I think. This is good. What can we say what your job is? Generally. Generally.

**Speaker 1:** It will be another cliche because I'm in IT. Good. Sounds good. So I'm an IT guy. I'm not a programmer, but, you know, in general IT.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. And I work nine to five. So Well, this is good. So this gives hope. I wanted to just reveal that because that does give hope. It can fuck you up, as I said at the beginning. If you are just analytical, analytical, up your own anus with your spreadsheets, yeah, you're gonna have shitty vibe. But like I come back to a lot of really, really good daygamers have this analysis, geekiness about them. And as long as it spurs you to action, it can be totally win win. So don't worry. You don't need to have a kind of clownish job. You can go out after work. And we're gonna come on to well, let's come on to review stuff, like more general trends and little tricks. And now, obviously, you are passing this knowledge on like Gandalf, you know, you're the wise wizard to you. You've reached a point where guys are stopping you obviously on the street and saying in Polish, what are you doing? What is this? Oh, is this game? How much? Show me and how much does it cost? And you've created a following here and I know I certainly know in Poland and Czech Republic, and it's rising. The the men are rising, the hipsters are are just deciding, fuck. I need to get laid. Yeah. There are there are more and more guys here on the streets. I can I can see that? And they get their models, their knowledge from somewhere, and they're trying it out.

**Speaker 1:** And they yes. As you said, and as I'm sure you experienced yourself, there if they see you, especially you because they can recognize you, but if you see you daygaming or picking up girls, they very often just approach you and then, you know, talk, have a talk, ask who are you, what you are doing, are you good, can you can you wing them, stuff like that. So, yeah, there are more more guys here.

**Speaker 0:** Guys are sometimes confused because now the the sin of the Internet is that there's so many pickup companies videos in fields. It's quite ironic that the the model, the the the daygame has been lost because if you were an eight eighteen year old kid, it's really confusing. Should I do this, this, this, this, or this? So, yeah, that we were trying to address that at the moment. Let's come back to let's come back to something we were chatting about before. Whereas in the past you did day one and then you followed the model, then you did day two, maybe cooking DVD, Netflix and chill. Do you want to reveal a practical tip? This is a good little tip that's not spoken about much. Yeah. This is the tip from this year. It's so it's for me, it's brand new.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. I was following the model. I was at first or in 2014, I was trying to bounce back When I've learned about bounce backs, I was trying to get the girl back home from every single date. And now I understand and I think when I put it that way, you can understand too that it's a bad thing because it turns you into come to my place, come to my place, come to my place kind of guy. Yeah. So this year, when I whenever I had a girl back at home, we were fooling around, we were on a bed, maybe there were some clothes dropped, but we didn't have sex. The next date I did a big, big push in the push pull moment. We did push pull model. So the push is to go with her surprise, surprise for a coffee date. A half an hour to maybe an hour forty minutes coffee date when you just chill with her, kiss her for hello and goodbye. But no escalation, no trying go going back to yours. No really no no

**Speaker 0:** pickup stuff. So yeah, classic fractionation, classic push pull.

**Speaker 1:** So it's not really following the model because you have to adapt and that after that many sets, many dates, can, you know, experiment with your own thing. And even if your own thing is in some different kind of model, well, you can still apply it. Yeah. And thankfully enough, those those push coffee dates got me three lace this year. So I can I can I cannot guarantee they will always work, but it's enough data to

**Speaker 0:** say that they do work? Yeah. So back to the theme, finishing on the theme before we do a cheesy upsell is that data works. Right? Thomas and I think you're mad if you just go out and hope for the best and, you know, yeah, I go out and sometimes I get laid, sometimes I don't. I'm not really sure why. Okay. You can play that game, but you're gonna be wasting a lot of time, wasting a lot of money. You're gonna be frustrated because some girl, you you won't see the pattern. So a little bit of data is fine. Write down some data, write down your thoughts. Where do you keep fucking up in the line? I see daygame as linear. Nightgame is like spaghetti, but daygame is pretty linear. And my students always fuck up at the same point in the model. And then if you record enough of your dates or you think about how far you've got the girl, okay, after 30 dates, you could say fuck, right? This is not working. This is working. And now, an interesting point is that even though we said girls are girls, in different cities, in different countries, there are different social trends for sure. Right? So dating in Dubai is gonna have a different spin than dating in Istanbul. New York, as I've just discovered, has a ridiculously fast version of the London daygame model, the dating bit of it. Really, if she comes out, she's gonna fuck you. Right? New York City, and you're a retard even if you do two venues, I discovered. It's venue one, do a shot, and go home. And if she doesn't come yeah. As you said, there's a massive flake rate. So it it kind of balances out. But in Poland, as we were discussing before, Poland has its own little dataset thing where certain things work, certain things might not work. Yes. Of course, there's random anomalies and you can fuck a girl from a bus stop in ten minutes. Of course, you can. You can fuck a crazy milf, whatever. You can go on five dates in Russia, but you start to see trends. So that's what I like about you, Thomas. This he's taken it very seriously and surprise, surprise, you've become a day game coach. So on that note, guys who are maybe in Germany, maybe you're in Czech Republic across the border, maybe you're in Poland, and you've just discovered this day game thing and I'm not around a lot, definitely, I'd recommend Thomas because he knows what the fuck he's doing. How do they find you, Thomas? Where do they find you? Okay.

**Speaker 1:** I think we will put a link below the video. And the site is tddaygame.com. Yep. So so, yeah, I go by the nick t d daygame pretty much everywhere in the Internet.

**Speaker 0:** Got a quick email.

**Speaker 1:** T d daygame g mail dot com. Yes. T d daygame, all one word Yeah. @gmail.com.

**Speaker 0:** And it's worth doing, guys, if you're in Middle Europe. You don't have to fly to London anymore. Daygame is is spreading wonderfully. And I know a lot of German guys, they often want to travel to London. But to be honest, why don't you travel to Krakow? Why don't you travel to Prague? You know? Come and experience some Middle Eastern Europe. I don't like saying Eastern European here because it's not really Eastern Europe at all. But the look, you know what I mean? If you like the Slavic look, then Prague is a playground of Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, drunk Americans, slutty Canadians. And you can chill with Thomas. Or if you're if you're in Warsaw, do you do you do some local coaching or, I guess, some Skype coaching? Yeah. I do both. And I actually

**Speaker 1:** travel quite a lot. So so all those places you described, I'm pretty much around them somewhere. Yeah. But I mainly do Warsaw and and neighboring cities. Yeah.

**Speaker 0:** Badabing. We're gonna finish it there. Leave your thoughts on your daygame data, how much data you've got, if you see it as a good thing or a bad thing. Cause I constantly have this little debate with other daygame coaches and a lot of them say, no, I have no interest in data at all. Maybe it's just my geeky mind and Thomas and I just knows, who knows. Anyway, that was podcast 55. It's far too sunny to be inside, so let's fuck off. Let's go outside. Cheers, Thomas. Take care. Cheers. Bye bye now.