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# Episode 76 Tales From Kiev and Q&A

**Speaker 0:** Tom Torero podcast 76 from Ukraine sitting in a former Soviet Union apartment autumn is upon us. The melancholic leaves are falling. But luckily, I'm not alone. I'm sitting in the kitchen. We've just had some home brewed coffee with a long time wing and friend, mister t. Timothy, good morning. Good morning, missus Wilson. Good morning, missus Evans. You might remember Timothy from Japan, from the Tokyo videos. You've been in a podcast before sitting by the fireside stroking your pussy cat in bath. Is that right? That's right. Yes. Yes. How time flies. Those autumn leaves. Last year. Was it only last year? Last year. Yes. And you look so much older, Timothy with your beard and gray hair and pipe. Wizard like. Now Timothy is looking as sprightly and as youthful as ever, and we've come away for only a week, into Ukraine. This is your first time in the Former Soviet Union? Yeah. My first time in Eastern Europe, actually. Dazzling. Like, Las Vegas. Wonderful. The first few days, summer was here, and it was pretty nice. And then suddenly overnight, temperatures plummeted and I quite like it. It's quite fresh. It's ideal daygame weather. University is in full swing. We've done about 50 sets each and that's not bad in about five days of number farming. We finished, well, we shouldn't say finished, we've got one day left. But so far statistics are that we got laid each one time each, not with each other. Although, you know, notch is a notch. I guarantee that with students, don't say where the notch comes from. But one lay each, lots of eye dates, you've had five eye dates I think. You've got another date tonight. I've got another date tonight. I had some LMR handjob failed blue bull stories, one in a car. Tears after that one. And two strong leads I've finished with that I'll probably come back for two quality girls. And yet in Ukraine, get same day lays, you get bounce backs, you get horny girls. Tim's got a same day delay story in a second. But as ever in former Soviet Union, if you're really going for top shelf, top quality, some of the time, a lot of the time, it involves dating, old school dating, not seven, eight, nine dates, cinemas, hand holding, flowers, chocolates, but just being a little bit patient. This is not Czech Republic. This is not Poland. This is not Germany. This is certainly not London or New York. So will I make it back before the snow hits? Let's see. But anyway, kicking off the podcast today, which is a q and a podcast, a mishmash of questions from Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, email, all sorts. The mailbag is brimming. What were those Saturday morning TV shows in the nineties, Timothy? Going live. Do you remember that one? I'm too young to remember that. How dare you accuse me of being older than YouTube. Well, who was it? Phillips Gofield? Phillips Phillips Scofield. Sarah Green as well maybe, was it? That was probably the first woman you wanked over, wasn't it? Sarah Green. Anyway, and they used have a mailbag section. They used to have a phone in section. And I always hoped some kids would phone in and just shout wanker

**Speaker 1:** or twat, but I think someone did once actually when there was some eighties pop band on.

**Speaker 0:** Oh. We'll have to dive into YouTube for that one. That was in the eighties, of course, which I don't remember because I wasn't born then. Oh, totally, Timothy. He says, as his beard gets forever longer. So listeners are thinking, well, same day delay in Ukraine. That's perhaps unusual or that's a bloody good story. There is a photo actually, if you're switched on enough and you're on my Instagram, there's a photo of mister t opening the skill or rather getting a number. I captured that glorious moment forever. And then later on that evening, where I put it? Oh yeah, I know I put that photo up that same evening as Tim had her back in the apartment and was nailing her upstairs. And I was sitting alone on my bed on Instagram. So if you go to Instagram, you'll see the birds. But what happened, Timothy? Go for it.

**Speaker 1:** I think you just popped into a cafe, and I sat down on the bench waiting for you. And I just saw her walk past, and I think she gave me a very slight IOI.

**Speaker 0:** This was on a uni street, very near the uni. Yeah? Yep.

**Speaker 1:** So I just jumped up, ran after her, and stopped her. And it seemed like she was very keen straight away. I was a bit I kind of ran out of things to say almost straight away. So I I actually ended up doing fairly rubbish nice guy chats. But fortunately, because she was so on, it didn't seem to matter that much. And her English was a bit ropey? Her English was very bad, yes, which meant that I couldn't do most of the normal teasing stuff because it wouldn't she wouldn't have understood.

**Speaker 0:** Yep. And then how did you set up the next date? Because she had mentioned she was going to uni or going to classes or something, but she was free later.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. I think initially I suggested an instant date, but she said she had to go to classes. But she actually told me that she was free after 06:00, which was a very good sign. And the other problem was at that stage, my phone had locked itself because I'd put a new SIM in it and restarted it, and it it locked itself out. I wasn't sure what the code was, so I just had to write down her number.

**Speaker 0:** Yep. And then you set up the date Yep. But it didn't go that smoothly with well, she agreed, then something happened.

**Speaker 1:** That's right. About an hour before the date or two hours, she sent me a message to say her friend had sprained her ank ankle and was in hospital.

**Speaker 0:** Oh, yeah. Common story. Did we believe her? Did we not believe her? Mhmm. But rather than going, oh, I hope your friend gets better. Good luck. No problem. We can arrange next time. What did you do?

**Speaker 1:** You told me to just leave it and not reply, and so I I just left it. And then about half an hour later, she sent me another message saying we can arrange another time. And so that was a good sign. You you still told me not to reply to that immediately, and I didn't. Then I walked off somewhere, and then she actually called me.

**Speaker 0:** Power the vacuum, see? Because she's worried, oh, fuck. I've lost him. So, yeah, whether that sprained ankle thing was true or not, we don't know. But she said, I'll meet you at,

**Speaker 1:** what, was it something like eight or something? Yeah. She said she'd meet me at 08:30.

**Speaker 0:** And then what happened?

**Speaker 1:** Okay. So I went down to meet her outside of McDonald's, and we went to one little cafe near the apartment. And the plan was to go to two venues, but in that venue, I could sense it was very on, so I just suggested going back to watch a film. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Guys are going,

**Speaker 0:** how the fuck did you know that it was on? How can you sense if a girl is on in a small cafe after twenty minutes?

**Speaker 1:** It's because she was kind of leaning into me, touching me a lot, and she didn't seem to be that interested in what was going on in the cafe.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Good. So you can fast forward Yeah. The verbal escalation. And when a girl touches you, green light. Yep. Yep. And luckily, that cafe is only two minutes from where we're sitting at the apartment. You had already sorted out home logistics just in case.

**Speaker 1:** I put my laptop upstairs in the bedroom so we could just go straight there, watch a film. Got some alcohol in here? I had. Yes. In the fridge.

**Speaker 0:** You said let's go. And what was her reaction when you're walking up and outside the door?

**Speaker 1:** It was fine. There was she seemed to be expecting it,

**Speaker 0:** so there was no resistance to going in the apartment at all. Right. Now guys are going well. She was obviously a yes girl. You know? She's an easy girl. Probably does this nightly. She's only 21 years old. She's a university student. Anyone could have done that. Right? But you take her up to his. And then the real test you could say of a day gamer versus just a guy who gets lucky, quote unquote, what kind of stuff happened as you put on the movie?

**Speaker 1:** Well, fairly soon after what starting the film, I started trying to escalate, but she wasn't having any of it to begin with. She just kept saying, let's just watch the film. Mhmm. Just hop just hug me, like, when I try to kiss her and so on. Yep. But I kept persisting all the way through the film, which is lost in translation, by the way. Very good movie. Reminds us of our Tokyo adventures. Exactly. Yes.

**Speaker 0:** And the high risk, high reward, Torero move Mhmm. Of GYD. Oh, get your willy out. Oh, yes. I was in my room and I actually must have heard the point when he did that because I heard the playfully giggling like, oh, what is this? So I thought either Timothy's got a puppet out or he's got his minute penis And she was so shocked at the size of it. She she giggled. But did you make that move, I presume? I did. Yes. Not completely out, but kind of half out. Thank you for the detail. Listeners are now visualizing that. Yep. And then

**Speaker 1:** still not green lights. Yeah. She wouldn't actually put her hands on it

**Speaker 0:** Mhmm.

**Speaker 1:** Due to the gargantuan size of it, I suppose.

**Speaker 0:** Due to the minute size, she just couldn't get a grip, but understandable. You know? And some guys, maybe you haven't heard of this technique, g y d o. I I don't actually say it's mine, but I publish it. And I've spoken about it many times with token alimar when you put her hand over your jeans and then under your jeans, it really turns girls on. And it drives them wild. It sounds counterintuitive. It came this technique from, I have to say a forum, when I was on a forum in 2011. And I must have posted something about losing the girl on my bed through LMR. And this cocky cunt, this guy just replied, get your dick out. And I thought he was being, mister sarcastic, but that technique works. So, it really turns girls on to see that you are turned on. And it's token LMR. This is not real her saying I'm going and you're saying no, you're not going. Don't leave comments about that because you should know what token LMR is and it's a dance and your job to try, her job to resist. If you don't understand the biology behind it, it's to do with anti defense and she doesn't want to look easy and it's forebrain and hindbrain. She can't appear to be cheap la la la la la. So what happened next after she had seen your minute penis?

**Speaker 1:** After that carried on for a bit. I kept trying to put my hands down her underwear. Eventually, she let me and then after that it was all fairly smooth.

**Speaker 0:** What? Down there? Yes. Especially. Nothing bristly or hairy. Well, there you go. Maybe she did kind of semi prepare and girls do that, but you said her underwear wasn't matching. No. Purple

**Speaker 1:** purple underwear

**Speaker 0:** or purple pants and Visualize that. Yeah. Beige bra. Thank you very much. I've got that image in my head now and again if her underwear is not matching it kind of shows you that she was an ES girl, she hadn't totally decided. She's seeing if you're a cool guy, she's seeing if you're persistent enough through the token, remember the word is token, and then you gave her a good two minutes of heaven. What's that famous quote? With me, she only needs two minutes. Two minutes is enough, baby. But then you've seen her subsequently and had wonderful nights of passion. So bloody good job, Timothy. That was remarkable. And what number girl was she out of our farm of 50 approximately? She was about the twentieth, I think. Well, bloody good in the farm Former Soviet Union. And she's 21, and you are?

**Speaker 1:** 39.

**Speaker 0:** 39. So almost half your age. That's fantastic. And again, it shows you that in Ukraine, in Russia, in Belarus, the former Soviet Union countries, can get same delays. Same day delays, you can get bounce backs, you can get instant dates. And there we go. God smiled. And She

**Speaker 1:** actually never asked asked me my age, which is unusual.

**Speaker 0:** Well, that's very good. In certainly here, it doesn't Yeah. It's not a big deal at all. And guys are gonna go, well already, I've had comments like this. Three emails guys are going, well, you go to Ukraine because they're just all money whores, they're all gold diggers, so obviously she fucked you Tim for your passport and all those gifts you showered upon her and that cocktail bar you took her to. It's fucking easy. It's just like Philippines. Come on, man. Like, can get laid in Ukraine. Well, first of all, I said come and try with daygame, not with, not with hookers, not with money, not with cars, not with offers of holidays in The Seychelles. But did she at any point ask you about what car you drove, if you could give her money, if you could give her presents? Has she been bombarding you with messages about going to London?

**Speaker 1:** No. Not at all. On the date, we just had one cup of tea in the cafe, which cost about 60p. And I did pay for that, but that was it. Basically, she hasn't been messaging me about anything else. She doesn't wanna be your girlfriend. She's not this desperate clingy girl. Not at all. And she knows I was just here for one week as well.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. You have to just accept that's a see secret society is everywhere. Some girls just wanna get laid with alpha dudes. Alpha being a guy who fucks girls. Right? Not necessarily. When you say alpha, guys imagine money, they imagine gym, they imagine sharp suits, they imagine CEOs. But the biological definition of alpha is just the guy who fucks or the guy that girls find sexually attractive, not the provider. A better definition, sometimes is to say that alpha is just her in your frame and beta is you in her frame. So that simplifies the definition of alpha. But anyway, my lay was from a shopping mall. It was a little bit creepy to stop, I have to admit because she saw me look at her and I didn't have time to stop her outside the shop. She went into a very small shop and that's where I did the approach with everybody listening and the girls coming over and just standing there.

**Speaker 1:** I hate those ones.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Yeah. Awkward, but suck it up. That's what I did. Uh-huh. And she was very and I couldn't tell if it was nerves or she was enjoying it. It was really hard to say. She was another student. She was a chemist, very pretty. And yeah, from there on in texting was okay. I'll put out the story another time. But, yeah, I'm happy with the lay. And like I said, two more leads that I'm keen to follow-up. And you've got the date tonight. It's our last evening tonight. So it's been a pretty successful, successful trip. And then next time we game together, we'll be in Japan. We will. In, in a secret location in Japan. Top secret. Yes. Top secret. Right. Timothy is gonna play the, the Parkinson of of this episode, episode 76. If you could read some of these mail bag questions, if you could plunge your hand into Okay. This heavy sack and pull out an envelope. Okay. If if it's a stamped address envelope, we'll send them Yes. A badge

**Speaker 1:** and a hat. Okay. Fire away, Timothy. Okay. This one is from Henrik. It's got a Danish postmark on it. Oh, hello, Henrik. It says, reopening the same girl. Is it a problem? I feel weird slash awkward.

**Speaker 0:** Yep. If you live in a small place, maybe you do, Henrik. Sounds Scandinavian. Is it a problem? No. Do you feel weird? Yes. So, you feel like it's something wrong, it's something creepy. Occasionally, if you open a girl again and again and again, yeah, she's gonna get pissed off if you live in a very very small place. I've done it at least three times, opened the same girl three times in my small city. But as long as you laugh it off and you say well it's me again, know, I still find you cute, it's my job to try positive, you're giving, daygame is win win, then it's fine. It's how you react to it. If you have spotlight effect, if you feel like you're doing something wrong, that daygame is creepy, that you need to hide it, that people are watching, that you have a very serious face, that you're not smiling, you're opening hair on small dark streets. Yeah. It's gonna be weird and awkward, but don't let it affect you. It's part of the deal. Even in London, I'd approach the same girl two or three times and it's fine. Laugh it off. A green amplifier is a shit test. Alright. Dive into the mailbag.

**Speaker 1:** It's Okay. This is from Roosh. Can you be alpha and a provider?

**Speaker 0:** Million dollar question, quite literally. I would say no. Two or three years ago I was thinking about how you could be an alpha boyfriend. An alpha in terms of holding the frame, her being in your frame not you being in her frame, yes, you can be, a strong framed father, husband, boyfriend. But alpha in the definition of sleeping with of girls and many girls finding you sexually attractive and you being the player, not really. Player and provider are different strategies in this game. So if you're spending a lot of money on a girl, you're promising her lots of things, you're helping her out, you're the loving, caring, gentle father of her children which you provide for. No. You've given up on your player years. What's possible, as I say in street hustle, is to have the player years, nothing wrong with that. Get all that done, notches under your belt literally, and then quote unquote settle down and you can have no regrets then. The problem is only if a guy is settling down very quickly. He's 20, he's 21, and he settles down into provider mode without having those reference experiences. So don't cash in your chips, that's what I say. In street hustle I've got a section on relationships and the full spectrum from the lover to the provider. Ukraine's a good place to watch out for girls who have very good game. You'll find these in the night mostly, not in the day. You might you'll come across a few but girls who are playing you, they are hustlers, yeah they are proper gold diggers. They've been to Dubai, they are showered with money, they want arrangements, they want sponsors, sugar daddies and all that stuff, and many guys I guess are falling into that provide the role. Don't kid yourself, that's the play role. Alright next question, postcard

**Speaker 1:** in the mail bag. This is from Devin b, and he says, do you make enough money to live comfortably,

**Speaker 0:** pay bills, eat, etcetera, from the work that you do? You cheeky scam, Devin b. How dare you inquire as to my financial arrangements? But yes, I do. I'm very lucky now that I'm no longer a school teacher. I live off my books, so I get money from Amazon, from those, kindle books. I get money from Lulu which is the paperback books and the hardback books. I get money from the coaching that I do, live coaching and Skype coaching. At the moment, don't have a video project, but they're coming soon. Stel seduction, my infields, that will be on a platform, a membership platform, to host the videos and I'll get money off that. So right now, yeah, I'm living off my day game. Who'd have thought? And if you're interested in remote living, remote working, watch my videos called Flow Mads part one and two on YouTube and it tells you how I got started and how you can run a business from your laptop and you can generate passive income. That's all on flow mad inspired by of course the four hour work week mentality, digital nomad mentality. I've got other podcasts on that as well. So yes, Devin, you can do it. Alright. Next question.

**Speaker 1:** This is from Vegard. Hi, Tom. You've said in earlier podcasts about how we humans are not designed to be happy. I'm starting to feel that now. I kind of feel that the magic is gone since I know girls are not princesses. Do you have any tips?

**Speaker 0:** Yep. That's a that's an important question. That should be a podcast actually. The bitter taste of the red pill. Blue pill guys, know guys in your office perhaps or guys that you come across in day to day life, they live in kind of blissful ignorance. Now they might be unhappy but they're not really aware of hard truths. And in a way I've got mates that got married after school with a bird from school and they live in the same town and they know nothing else. And yeah, they're not massively happy but they're not massively unhappy because they don't know about the secret society. But the problem when you find out about game and red pill, it's a bit like swallowing medication and the medication having side effects if you take it incorrectly. So if you swallow all this red pill knowledge, you go down the rabbit hole as they say in the matrix, without any action, it leads to bitterness because you think oh well fuck this, know this is really how women behave and there are some guys out there nailing all these girls and oh god this ruins my image of marriage and perhaps relationships and all the movies that I watched and the Disney thing doesn't doesn't play out so fuck life is shit, women are horrible, what's the fucking point? And lots of guys, especially online guys on Twitter trolls, they spend their whole life just wallowing in self pity being the victim. And I've said many times use red pill knowledge as a loophole, as an advantage. See it, accept it, this is the true nature of things and as you say in that quote, 'Accept that happiness is a biochemical thing and you can't sustain it', right? You can't have hit after hit after hit of a drug and expect it to have the same effect. So what you're really looking for is satisfaction as all cheesy life coaches say. You have a target you work towards, you achieve it and then what do you know, you need another target to work towards and it's that process that brings happiness. I don't believe in sustained cheesy Ronald McDonald happiness but I do believe in satisfaction from going after what you want. Degam is a great thing for that. It does make the highs highs and the lows lower so there is a double edged sword to dig in. You have to be careful with digging. But traveling, having hobbies, being free from the matrix, doing what you love, talking to beautiful women, sleeping with beautiful women, it's alright. So as long as you're not behind your keyboard, as long as you're not swallowing the pill and then trying to cough it back up, having horrendous side effects through inaction, you're gonna be fine. So red pill knowledge needs massive massive massive action, and it will never stop. Alright. Next one in the mail bag.

**Speaker 1:** This is from Nico, who was in Grand Theft Auto game, I think. This is the very man himself. Yes. Approaching older women milfs in their thirties, is there anything to do differently when approaching an older set?

**Speaker 0:** Good question. It's a bit like approaching a younger set. So girls that are 17 to 21 and women that are 32, 33 are hornier. Right? They're in the zone. They know what's what. They're looking for the lover. The the weirdest sets, you say the hardest sets, girls that are 26, 27, 28 because they've had the bad boy and they're looking to settle down. A single mom or a girl that's decided not to get married but she's in her mid to late thirties, she's horny. There's extra estrogen actually flooding her system telling her to have babies, have babies. So more secret society, if you're younger than her, play on that fact and say that she's your sugar mummy and you're the gigolo and she's corrupting you and you're an innocent boy, she might have that fantasy. If you're her age or a little bit older then it's fine. They play less games, they come out more, they're not late, they turn up, they know what's what. Most guys find milfs easier and hornier and more experienced so definitely don't turn down milfs and they can be very hot especially here in FSU. Next question.

**Speaker 1:** Name of the iPhone app you use to put new contacts in chronological

**Speaker 0:** order from Jim Kay. Oh, know Jim Kay, an American. I think I met you in Las Vegas, Jim Kay. IPhone app is called new digits and you used to have to pay for it about 69 p but I think it's free now and it's it's a feature that the iPhone lacks and it still lacks that when you put in contacts you can't search for them in date time order but this app new digits, you can do it. I'm sure there's an equivalent for Android. You're on Samsung, aren't you? I am. Yes. Do you how do you, track numbers?

**Speaker 1:** I don't normally get many, so I don't need to.

**Speaker 0:** Come on, Timothy. Don't be shy. In Japan, you were getting a fuckload. How did you track them? That was actually quite difficult, especially as they

**Speaker 1:** quite a lot of them had sort of just the squiggly Japanese characters. But I was using line, not the just

**Speaker 0:** phone number. So Does line, like WhatsApp, track entrance?

**Speaker 1:** I don't think it does. Or if it does, haven't worked out how to use it. So I actually think I did lose at least one contact just because I couldn't work out which one she was. Yep, so there's some tricks to that. If you can't be bothered to download

**Speaker 0:** new digits or an equivalent then what I used to do is after the set you jot it down in your notes function on your phone, you give the girl a nickname or there and then when you're on the street you send a message to her with your name, many daygimmers do that so in your inbox of text you have in order the girls that you close that day, make a note on a piece of paper. Yeah, lots of guys make notes in under the name. She won't be able to see this but linked to her contact details you'll say Spanish flamingo architect twenty one we joked about Ben and Jerry's. So if you go on a date with her, if you text her you can tailor the pings and you can tailor the date to her but new digits saves my ass. Get it? I'm sure there is an equivalent for Android. Right. Next question.

**Speaker 1:** This is from John c. During a day game session, how quickly how do you quickly note down your number of approaches, closes

**Speaker 0:** slash ID? Alright. Well, we just answered the ID and the closes bit. The approach is you can carry around a little card. Just take one of those flyers that a girl gives you or a little business card from a shop and just make a tear in it every time you do an approach and then if it's a close you can make a longer tear so you can do your 10 sets that's a good daygame session and then you can work out your ratio of open to close some guys put 10 coins in one pocket and every time they do an approach they transfer it over that's a bit jingle jangle

**Speaker 1:** You

**Speaker 0:** can note them down on your phone, you can calculate them in your head. Most guys interestingly when I teach them overestimate how many they've done. So I'll say how many do you think he'd done? And he's like oh loads 20. And he's done six because of the exhaustion and you you're looking at girls and that effort, that adrenaline, that rush, you're miscalculating. So yeah, keep a track of it. In the beginning when you've done digging for a long time, no you don't need to be statistical geeky and treat it like a computer program but in the beginning, yeah, treat it like the gym, work out your reps. Alright, the time is ticking, grandfather time is ticking so we shall skip on to

**Speaker 1:** the last two questions. Okay. This is from mister Laballo and

**Speaker 0:** he's asking why is an overly sexual girl a red flag? That is a clever question and not obvious to a lot of guys. So a girl comes up to you on the street. She's super sexual. You think bloody hell. This is a yes girl. This is easy. Why is that a problem? Well, a, could be a whore. So if you're Las Vegas or bits of FSU, she's a whore. B, she's playing games. It's a shit test. Right? If a girl's on a date and she's being more sexual than you, she's baiting you, she's testing you to see how hungry you are and most guys will fall for it show them that they are super desperate. So in these rare occasions when she's super horny and sometimes you get a milf doing this, I talked about this in my failure podcast, You can't show that you're affected by it and just flip it around and accuse her of being the, you know, the corrupting one and you're just this innocent angel. And and don't be impressed by it. Yeah. So that can be a red flag. Last one. In Southeast Asia, it could also mean she's a ladyboy as well. Oh, well. A notch is a notch as I said, you know. Final question because grandfather time is ticking. From

**Speaker 1:** Daniel o p, any tips on storytelling and role play?

**Speaker 0:** That's a massive topic. Definitely needs a podcast that one but listen to my podcast from Japan actually. I did one on conversation ninja. For storytelling, you want to be watching improv, you want to be watching stand up comedy, you want to be doing some, improv sessions, you want to be teaching, so TEFL teaching can help with this. You want to be recording podcasts like I'm doing now, stream of consciousness, verbal bamboozling, making YouTube videos in one take. Role play needs wit, needs witticism. Mr T and I have been going through the last series of Blackadder called Blackadder Goes Forth. If you're British, you'll know what that is. An incredible, incredibly witty, sharp dialogue. Amazing. Reminds me how good that is. So yes, a skill. It's a muscle. You've got to work it, but that's going be another podcast. When am I going to meet fellow daygame delinquents in Toronto? I'm on it, I'm just trying to work it out. It's based on my flights, it's based on my teaching and I usually say let's meet in the evening and then in the evenings dates pop up or things pop up so I might do like a brunch thing or a Saturday morning thing but I'll work it out and I'll put it on my Twitter. You Timothy. Will you be making any of your rolls? They're in the oven right now, Timothy. So pop on your oven gloves, put your hand deep inside that warm cocoon and pluck out one of my cinnamon rolls. Okay. Stuff it into your mouth. Delicious.

**Speaker 1:** And remember to wipe your lips. Oh, do you get the outside so crusty and the inside so moist? Oh, that's what she said. Podcast 76.

**Speaker 0:** Thank you, Timothy. See you in Japan. Ta da. Goodbye.