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# Episode 86 Viva Las Vegas

**Speaker 1:** Only Donny Osmond tribute act is Craig Cassidy good morning Craig hello guys how are you all going I hope you're good

**Speaker 0:** Craig's alcohol levels are certainly illegal but we're not driving we made it here yesterday from Los Angeles California we drove in a in a Chevy Camaro I think there will be some beautiful footage of us speeding through deserts but anyway the plan wasn't to record a podcast it was just to live that's Vegas but we made it through the first night we're recuperating and recovering with coffee sitting outside the legendary Caesars Palace so spot the connection obviously hangover part one hangover part three three yeah Leslie Chow

**Speaker 1:** sitting by the fountains did the real Caesar live here

**Speaker 0:** we haven't seen that kind of dresses as Alan there's usually a guy that's really really good with a I saw him last night. I saw him last night. He looked nothing like him.

**Speaker 1:** Did he have a baby strapped to his chest? Yeah. Oh, he looked I didn't know whether it was a baby or an ISIS vest. I couldn't tell. What's the baby called in the movie? Mario. Is it Mario? No. No.

**Speaker 0:** Answer below to get some to get a prize to get a novelty flamingo from the casino where we're staying. We're in the flamingo. Forgive the lack of cohesion in this podcast. I've been ill for well, both of us have been ill. We were teaching in Los Angeles. For the first residential ever, we thought it was jet lag, but we were burning up losing our voices feeling really weird and it was it was it was a funny one but we had a really good student so it was nice to daygame in all the classic LA spots and then we said fuck it end of the year we're just gonna have free nights in Vegas. We had last night which was Thursday tonight, Friday and Saturday.

**Speaker 1:** Is that right? What day? No. It's Thursday. No. It's Friday today. Yeah. Sunday.

**Speaker 0:** And then fly in home Sunday. So far one all, that's what Craig doesn't like Craig doesn't like these This football does not count. One lay all, first goal scored by Tom Torero very early on in the game as Craig was moaning about his illness. Tom Torero, the short of it is that it was just a throwaway number close for the with the student just to show him a just give out compliments. So I was in a shopping mall. I think it was first day. First day, Craig. Throwing out the compliments. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Girl came towards me on the escalator wearing this big furry coat. Anyway, long story short, it was a good sexual set. The texting was easy. Dates pretty easy and then logistics in Los Angeles as ever started fucking me up because even though she lived in Santa Monica we were down in Venice staying next to Schwarzenegger's goals gym the original and dog town if you know that area the legendary area that's where we were and she wasn't willing to come to Venice and I couldn't go back to her house because she lived with her mother she was this typical blonde like bubbly ex cheerleader kind of girl. So I was doing the whole walk at home thing thinking fuck fuck fuck it's slipping away it's slipping away. She was dropping little hints about going to see the beach. I missed the first view, but I've got it on audio and looking back yet she was dropping it like Tom stop talking about my mom's house and let's go for a walk and low and behold God gave us a shopping trolley someone had left which is not unusual in Venice Beach in Santa Monica. There was a shopping trolley and so I put her in the shopping trolley and I pushed her about half a mile. You can hear that as well on stealth seduction. And then we came to it wasn't the beach. She tricked me. It was a fucking cliff with a fence overlooking the ocean which was miles away. And I said, how do we get down? She said, we can't. And now it was lights and traffic going past and a homeless person next to me and yes, we just turned around looked at the Pacific Ocean pulled her yes it was beautiful and that's all on audio definitely more than three strokes I don't know four four strokes maybe a good twenty seconds of loving that's all you need with Tom Torero she said oh my god you've taken me to the stars I forgot my own name that was astounding and she didn't invite me in I tried to go back to her house to really you know do it properly and she said no and that was that and then there's a lot of LA footage we did a night photography session so we'll try and put some of that out LA looks beautiful doesn't it in the night we went to Downtown LA for that kind of amazing

**Speaker 1:** what's the movie Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome, man. Awesome.

**Speaker 0:** The first couple of times I went to LA, I wasn't a fan. This trip converted me, even Hollywood. The number of beautiful women. If you're one of these guys that says there's no hot American women, fuck me. Get to get to Hollywood. Get to UC UCLA not Hollywood Strip The Grove get to The Grove get to The Grove or any of the shopping centers standard was ridiculous even down in Santa Monica with the yoga girls Venice was a bit crusty but kind of fornication vibes and then we drove and that was an epic shoot yesterday we really wanted to get that a grand tour top gear esque car footage which we got we got here I was fucking ill but you know wanted to show the rookie Cassidy around he had high a a what time did we start six seven 07:30 yeah it was 07:30 my we were slightly eager because we're like woo hoo Vegas started downing lots of drinks ill tired just driven like six seven hours and so not surprisingly we crashed by about nine or ten and I will now pass the microphone over to Craig Cassidy but just just a few footnotes not about your lane as this was happening to Craig I was somewhere in Treasure Island I was flaming up in the by the pirate ship and I pulled a bird from outside Bellagio Fountains took it to Flamingo left my wallet in Flamingo went to Treasure Island said fuck fuck fuck went back to Flamingo, came back to Treasure Island it was like it was like a flashback to that trip many years ago got back to Treasure Island she was gone but in a way I quite happy to stumble into my room shut my little eyes blissful sleep and then what did I hear just fucking dirty old school Chris Brown from next door what what on earth was going on mister Cassidy

**Speaker 1:** I want I wanna pre preempt this by saying if I'm a little bit drunk still I think first and foremost I I've had about two three hours sleep. But your anxiety is gone? My yeah my a is gone man. That's really how it started. I I was so excited to arrive in Vegas, driving down the strip in the Camaro, roof down, like an absolute boss. I was so excited, and then we went out and it hit me. I had two beers. We had two beers. Yep. And don't know whether it was the beers or your drugs.

**Speaker 0:** Your We're doing alright in the beginning. Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** Tom was off Tom was off like a like a grey hound out of a trap. He says skill, I say a combination of beer and aspirin. But he was open and Tube set? We got us some good tube set. Yeah. Yeah. He was he was on it and I I felt like shit. I was I wanted to go to bed, but it's Vegas. And I said to myself, fuck it. I've gotta stay out, you know. So we wandered around for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Went to all the the Not all the casinos, all the ones in the vicinity of Flamingo. And had some beers and then, yeah, were in Was it Cosmo? Cosmo. Yeah. And Tom met this bird. Went off very fast. Very fast. So I I Just wanted to get rid of you. Yeah. You just fucked up. And I I was about fifty fifty whether I was gonna just go home and go to bed. So I texted Tom. I think I texted you, you banging or something like that. Because I was kinda like, if he wasn't, I was like, oh, I'm gonna go home. I was I was so tired. I thought, fuck it. I I went back to flamingo. I had another drink. I decided it was still early. It was still about half eleven. So I I did a bit of blackjack for about an hour, won some money, doubled my What a baller. What a baller. You have to, you know, you have to gamble in You have to gamble in Vegas. So I did a bit of betting, get some free drinks and then I hit the strip again. So I think I went around our little route, Flamingo, Paris, Planet Hollywood, Cosmo Bellagio. Bellagio and Caesars. I did that route two three times over the space of about two hours and

**Speaker 0:** Insert a few daygame tips here, not tits. Tits. If you come into Vegas Vegas for for their game, then don't. You know, the myth of what you see in the movies. On the strip right now, we're sitting here. It's just fat people, old people in mobility scooters. Just just pure tourists. It's like Disneyland. It's probably one of the worst places. There is there are shopping malls, but this is not why you come to Vegas. You come to Vegas for gut to gain. And our first mistake last night was starting early. Yeah. Like clubs weren't even opening. Girls weren't even going out. Eleven, twelve, we saw some heels and skirts. Yeah. Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night. So, no, you don't need to do clubs. And I will say, don't do clubs. Don't pay for the table shit. Don't be a sucker unless you've got connections and you're a real baller. If you're like homeless people like us and you don't you're not dressed properly for Vegas, it's what's the word? It's sniper. It's real dirty dirty looking for hunters. Yeah. Because girls are in groups, girls are in twos. You need to know where to go. You need to prowl. You need to have logistics. You need to know where the bars are. And leading on, sorry to interrupt your story, but this leads on. You need to know the biggest warning signal Yeah. Which is hookers. By how many how many opens did you do yesterday when they were pure hookers?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Most of my sets were hookers. Single girls at and on the strip. Yeah. Well, it's the strip that really got me and you told me about it and I'm sure you're aware of If you've listened to Tom's channel for a long time, you'll know false positives. So the opens were too good to be true. Yeah. The eyes I spazzed out straight away asking you loads of questions about your logistics and it's She's bouncing. Yeah. She's she's looking to get you back to your room to to rinse you for money. But So I opened a lot of hookers. Opened some, some single girls, but Yeah. It seems like a lot of people here with people like boyfriends and families and and You have Yeah. It just didn't go anywhere. But I was, you know, I I By this point, I was, accepting this fact and I thought, fuck it. I'm gonna stay out, you know, it's Vegas. I'm gonna keep going and keep going and keep going. It was still about two in the morning, so you got plenty of time. Vegas is twenty four hours. So I headed back to Cosmo because Cosmo We went there earlier in the night and yeah, the girls there were good. And just as I crossed the road, this girl walks out of, Cosmo. So in my best British accent, I opened her. Yeah. She hooked straight away, spazzed out, and I thought, okay. This is a bit another hooker. So I yeah. I said, what are you doing? Are you working? Which is the question you ask girls. If if they're hookers, they they should answer. Yeah. They're working. She said no. And so we went into Cosmo for a drink. Over that first drink, I found out Oh, there's a guy There's

**Speaker 0:** a man rummaging in a bin. Could be an old school daygamer.

**Speaker 1:** God bless him. Anyway, carry on. It's like bad Santa. Oh. Which is what Say no more. Say no more. Yeah. Over the first drink, I found out that she used to work in this strip club called Sapphire, and she was heading out on the strip to, yeah, just to meet some guys to to buy a ship, basically. But, one of the key principles of the way we do daygame is in lover mode. It's not buying her shit. It's being direct and honest. And I told her straight up that, you know, I'm not gonna buy her stuff. I I respect the fact that she's out hustling, and she respected that and, she had a bottle of vodka in a in a bag. We had one drink that yeah. I paid for one drink, but you normally do that anyway on a date. And she Fire expensive shit. No. No. No. I bought her a standard drink. It cost me like same as if, you know, if we went for a beer. She had one drink. She filled my drink up and over over the drink, it it was I spiked it. It got very sexual and she said she does fuck guys for free. If she likes them and She's called shoring. Yeah. Shoring. I'm absolutely smashed. I can't even make sense yet. So she said she was staying in Cosmo. She said I've got a room here and she said look come up to my room. I'm not you know, we had already made it clear that I'm not paying for stuff and she liked that. She had a room in Cosmo. She had a room in Cosmo. Fucking hell. And we kind of got to the elevator and a friend called. I'm trying to I'm trying to recall this. Yeah. Friend was probably banging in that room. Yeah. And then she said, oh, where you know, where's your casino? So it was pretty simple from there. Bouncer to Flamingo. We we had a few drinks on the casino floor for free. We we gambled. She gambled. I I watched. Bouncer to my room. And yeah, it kind of It happened from there really. It was it was easy. I think the fact that I made it clear that I wasn't gonna pay her for for sex. I don't think she was a hooker. She was a stripper. She worked at a place called sapphire. So she was a former stripper. Jack of all trades. She was, very hot Russian, half I think. Adopted, so she had What a surprise. Yeah. She had daddy issues, which made it a bit easier for me. And, yeah, it's a bit of a blur. I mean, about three hours two, three hours sleep and I I I you can probably tell right now. I I have no idea what I'm doing. You sound absolutely normal, Just incoherent and rambling.

**Speaker 0:** If anything better, I would say. I would say that story's come up better. But there you go, one all. Or as Craig likes to say, you know. You scored an own goal, I got golden goal. That's what happened. An own goal with a cheerleader in LA looking at the Pacific man. Let listeners decide. Sure in or a cheerleader. Vote below. Anyway, it's only that was only the first night. That was just a warm up. Because if anything, today's all about conserving energy. Buffet all you can eat. We're just looking at another hooker strolling past and I'm shaking my head at Craig. That's obvious. Some of them really not that obvious. Remember that little the the black girl I stopped at the beginning really like she would her hustle was amazing. You have to be, you know, all eyes wide open and keep saying, are you working? Are you working? Because they're very good. But if she's saying things to you like, we should go and hang out. We should go and grab a drink if she's touching you too early and all that you know anyway tonight we got a different project which we won't talk about now you'll just see but it involves got a game and something else so that's what we're doing today and hopefully that'll be two all, two for two or

**Speaker 1:** two sisters or mother daughter. I'm still on for the triple threat, three days, three lays.

**Speaker 0:** If you get a hot dwarf that counts as double points. Yeah. Double points, half size double points. If you get two twins, that's triple points. Yeah. Triple. Yep. My plan is just to keep making Craig drink now, so he'll pass out around lunchtime. And then I'm gonna nip out fully sober and get those notches. See? Uh-huh. Tomorrow is a little bit of recuperation because Sunday we're flying back to The United Kingdom. Anyway, that was the first half of the podcast. For the final ten minutes or so, we're gonna talk about your plans, mister Cassidy, and my plans because lots of people ask me if I'm teaching live next year, where I'm teaching, if we're back in LA, if if I'm back in New York City. And I made the decision, I think, when I was having a bit of burnout in September or October that basically I'm not doing any live coaching. This is the first year for about six years since I started seven years that I'm not gonna do any live one on one coaching. For the guys that have already booked, I'll do it. Yep. And for maybe some odd residentials again with you mister Cassidy. Yeah. Because we love LA so much. I might do a residential, but I'm not doing the London or the Europe or the New York one on ones. So for a few months now, well for six months you've been doing my life coaching really. Any inquiries I get for London and Europe even further afield. Craig's done a lot a lot of coaching with me so he knows how I coach, he follows the same structure. We were talking yesterday about if you're booking a coach, what should what should a coach have, you know, and I'll reel them off but can you explain why this matters. So the first thing we use is wireless mics and I cannot comprehend a coaching session or a company that doesn't doesn't listen to you or doesn't let you listen to them like why do you need wireless mics?

**Speaker 1:** Well there's literally no way you can see we we say it's just approach coaching without wireless mics you're just you're pushing guys into set, but you have no idea what's going on. Yeah. You can you can judge a little bit by body language, but you can't tell the half of it. If if you're not listening to the guy, you're not listening to the student, you won't hear subtle cues, things like that.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. Basically, if you're you're having coaching with that wireless mic, you're not having coaching. It's it's silly. And so you're coming back from the set. And if you've got a coach that obviously says things like, be a bit more natural, improve your vibe, there's no they cannot explain what they just did or what you just did there's zero structure imagine having like motorbike lessons or surf lessons where every time you go back to the instructor they just pat you on the back and go yeah just a bit more vibe, just a bit more being yourself and you know into the next one off you go. That is classic approach coaching. So the student coming and you debriefing, you know, you always debrief, I debrief at the end of the day and at the end of the the session and you email them, don't you, with with like points to do? Yeah. So we have like I use your feedback form. So we we give a feedback

**Speaker 1:** because we want guys to go away after the coaching session and work on the things that we've identified and for their benefit, you know, so they can get better. So, yeah, we use feedback forms.

**Speaker 0:** Okay. The next one is location of coaching. A giveaway for a dodgy coach is that he'll only do one scenario and he won't demo. So most day in coaches love the street. They might take you to a busy area like Times Square or Leicester Square and they'll do the approach coaching and they want demo. So what's the importance of like all these other locations which is the reality especially here in America you can't just do street and why you know obviously why is the demoing important how many times do you demo?

**Speaker 1:** I demo yeah every every scenario that I teach because, a lot of guys don't believe it. And you gotta show them that a, it's possible and b, from a technical point of view, it's it's people learn better when they see other people doing it. So And when they get tired, you step in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I I I like, I love the street, but we do all situations. We teach coffee shops, we teach shops, shops, indoors. Park. Park, seated girls, stationary girls. We went to UCLA? Yeah. We went to UCLA. We we we do all daygames. Oh, word. Oh, hello. I see titties. I'm getting very distracted, guys.

**Speaker 0:** See some sisters. Describe them.

**Speaker 1:** One of them is like a weird Kardashian versus Miley Cyrus. We'll call him over. We look she looks like a bit of a slut.

**Speaker 0:** Careful. Well, yeah. She's posing on the edge of the fountain. Is that her father in the corner? No. We're just gonna go say hello to them. Hang on. Come on, miss. Can you just say hello to my mom? Oh, I just said I saw two beautiful girls. Hello, mom. Say hello, London. Hello, London. Right. Now, you're gonna go and swim in the fountains ladies. You're gonna jump in? Can you swim? No. You look like sisters. Focus, focus, focus. So also looking at their text messaging and giving the student, literally the student your phone. I do this all the time and say, look at my texting, look at my WhatsApp right now, look at the Facebook messages and a, they can see there's girls in your life and b, more importantly, they can read your style of long game and short game and because you're collecting numbers with the student like happened this week. They saw it. The students saw us collecting numbers, how we text them, how we try and get them out. And then going on dates together like sometimes you do a game with the student or like I think in Barcelona or Riga you go on the date with them and you sit there in the corner it feels really weird you're having a beer listening watching your student helping him texting in real time going into the bathroom, not like that. Saying look, mate, yeah, now is the time to escalate, now is the time to pull, now is the time to pass. So it's not just number collecting, like what what do do with your text and your dates?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. Well, I show students a, I show them my previous texts, things from girls so then again, so they know it's real. On pre yeah. Previous residentials and stuff, going on dates with students, you can show them how you how you act on a date because, yeah, number collecting is one thing. But going on the date and Different skill? Yeah. Yeah. It's a different skill set. And a and a lot of guys, they will collect the number from daygame and then go on the date and and it's awful. They sit there for two three hours, chitchat. So going on a date, say with me or whatever, it's I show them how to spike and I do it in real time so they know what's going on. In Barcelona, that was one of my students biggest problems. It was sitting there and having a three hour conversation about England or the weather or shit like that. Whereas, seeing a coach and I and I got this from you, like, first time I saw you do it with

**Speaker 0:** shop girls and things like that. You you learn by watching. Yep. Yep. It's a big principle that you don't that the spiking works on anybody. So when the student doesn't really understand the attraction bit, the teasing, challenging, spiking, you say come here, watch this. And rather than him listening, you you make him stand next to you in a perfume section and together you spike and there, you know, the 50 year old lady, she loses it, spazes out flicks her hair and then you say to the student why you do it and he does it on a you know middle aged nilf and it works and then he say okay do it on a 30 year old do on a 20 year old it's the same fucking thing we we went out if you do the obviously, you live with us and we we were out with a student in Venice to come out for beers. One of us would open and then I'd I'd narrate what you were doing and then I went off with a girl actually. I called this girl. Yeah. I failed late but I pulled her and the student was sitting on the next table watching how I opened, how I bounced, cut blocks, isolate leads. So yeah, start to finish, a to zed. Why are we rambling on? Yeah, we're rambling on because if you I'm doing Skype coaching. I'm focusing on Skype coaching in 2017. Why? Because I travel. B because I'm yeah. I'll be honest. I'm over the co phase of explaining the London daygame model going over approach anxiety I've been doing it full time really for years and years and years all over the world and there's other guys qualified now they can show you the London daygame model they get laid they can show you texting and dating I prefer now in the last two months I've had some amazing Skype chats with guys where we talk about much wider things guys that have just had divorces guys that are thinking of breaking up from their girlfriend guys that have experienced things in their life and they want to get back on track. No, not life coaching, like proper proper red pill talks you could say and that would have that's what I would have found useful when I was younger and more and more guys are contacting me about that or how to live abroad and how to work online. So Craig, can you explain for the last three minutes where you're gonna be in December? Well, we're in December. Second half of December, January, maybe February and then where you're willing to go next year for live infield coaching.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. I'm back in the after this trip back in The UK for a few weeks, for Christmas. And then Will you do something in London then? Yeah. So if there's guys in London, certainly, I'm available for the next couple of weeks. Then I'm off to, New Zealand just to do a bit of a getaway actually, like like you said, a bit of burnout from daygame. I've been doing it solidly for the last couple of years. So I'm gonna go and do a bit of backpacking around New Zealand, but I will be in Sydney to visit a few old leads. So I'll be available for coaching in Sydney, Melbourne. Brisbane. Brisbane. And when I'm in New Zealand, yeah, Auckland as well if there's any Auckland guys. And then after that, I'm back in The UK. So I'll be available for London coaching and You do? European coaching. Yeah. Would you go up to Manchester or Liverpool or Glasgow? If the Kaiser Yeah. Yeah. So if there's any anywhere in The UK, I'm available. And then I guess we'll be doing Europe or I'll be doing European stuff as well. Yeah. Germany,

**Speaker 0:** Poland, Czech Republic. If you want little getaways, then we're often in or we we've often been taking students to Latvia or to Lithuania or to like, you went to Barcelona, Portugal. But if you want the hangover experience, if you do want Craig and I to coach together with man love, the full caboodle a to zed five days, that's the resi we do. I don't know how many we'll do, but there's a big there's a big demand in America certainly East Coast, West Coast, Canada we were in this year. Who knows? I might be tempted to go back to Sydney. But like I said, I think in the last podcast, I'm not I'm not a fan. Craig's a huge fan of Australia. He lived there. He knows Sydney daygame inside. I'm I just don't like it. I don't know why. I love New Zealand. I love LA LA now. Love New York City. But I'm gonna be focusing on content, on writing, on making films, upping it. You know, I gotta push the challenge because doing day game boot camps for me now, I don't feel like it's stretching me anymore. I love daygame. I'm not giving up daygame, but I gotta push myself with like the documentary that's in the works, a different kind of book that's in the works, a harder video project that's in the work. Skype, this kind of Skype is harder for me because I can't just give answers about texting and, you know, AA. I have to fucking think. So that's 2017. We're we're certainly not staying in one place. We're all over the world. They're domination. But But my voice is fucked. You're going to bed. Then I need to sleep you up. Friday night shenanigans will begin. Thank you for putting up with this ramshackle podcast, guys. Are we on to thirty minutes? Yeah. From Caesars Palace, I wish you well, boys and girls. And the next podcast will be from The UK, nice and Christmassy. Cheers, mister Kauser Dean.

**Speaker 1:** Cheers, mister Torero. I am going to bed. Alone. Alone. Alone.