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# Episode 96 Fifty Two Dates With Mr A

**Speaker 0:** Staff will serve sweet snacks and meals from a special menu card. All dishes are prepared on-site using fresh products, so the waiting time may be up to thirty minutes. Tom Torero podcast 96 speeding through the dark countryside of Central Europe from the mountains back to where my guest today lives. He's a citizen of Central Europe and London. He's a dodgy character. I'm part of the shuttle class. He's here, there, and everywhere. Tom's a hustler. I'm a respectable member of society. A fellow hustler. You'll recognize his voice. How many have you been on now?

**Speaker 1:** Well, I think this is probably the second, but I have a feeling made a short guest appearance. So maybe the third. We had a fantastic little podcast on princess behavior. Do you remember the famous miss Selfridges? Yes. Guy, oh,

**Speaker 0:** a lovely girl's shuttling past us with Valentine's chocolates, complimentary Valentine's chocolates on this train. We are recording this on Valentine's Day. We were just saying as we were waiting for our train, this is the one day of the year where girls show their cards as in it's no longer a blind auction. So obviously, yes. At other times of the year, you can seduce girls that have relationships, but you have to do it secretly, and, you know, you're thinking, is she with someone? Isn't she? And today, as we walked around the train station there were couples with balloons and teddy bears and flowers so you think okay not gonna approach her today and then there were single girls but sadly we were carrying all these bags we've just come back from skiing and the video's gone up on my channel, and now I've I've got mister a on to talk about a project that he's about to embark on or he's already started. But before we begin, today's announcement is about the forthcoming podcast 100, one zero zero. It is approaching rapidly. And as I said last time, if you wanna be on podcast a 100, not as in an email, but actually the sound of your lovely voice, then just record an m p three for me and attach it to an email. Send it to tom@tomtorero.com. Record it on your phone. Record it on your laptop. You should know how to record an m p three by now. I've already had a hand full and they're quite moving really. They're guys that are telling their story about what daygame has done for them. So maybe they've had a million rock star lays, maybe they've got married, maybe it's increased their confidence. Maybe it's got them out of the house, overcoming social anxiety, anxiety, depression, stress. Maybe they use it for meditation or CBT. Maybe you found a wing, some brotherly love. Who knows? But what has daygame done for you? Why are you listening to these podcasts? What action have you taken? Podcast a 100 is not gonna be half an hour. It's gonna probably be, maybe an hour, maybe two hours. Depend I'm gonna put them all in. Nobody's gonna be refused. However, weird and wacky your story. Even if it's a blue ball story, you wanna send some funny failed lay stories in, that's fine. But record yourself. You can do it anonymously. You don't need to say your name or your location. Give us your best, deep voice. Nice, nice and authoritative. Nice and clear. Record it. Send it to me, and it will be in podcast a 100. So you have, what, just over three weeks left to do that. Anyway, podcast 96. It's about something very exciting that mister a has revealed to me that he's doing for the next year, pretty much. And this project, is to do with dating, going on numerous dates, keeping a schedule, keeping it accountable, recording it, and doing it for a reason. So you might think this sounds a bit crackpot. Is this is this a gimmick? Is this one of those Guinness Book of Records gimmicks like, you know, how many pancakes can you put in your head? The title sounds a bit gimmicky. I mean, the title is 52 dates. 52 dates. So first of all, what is this project 52 dates? What are you doing and what is the time span? Yeah. Well, it is what it says on the tin, 52

**Speaker 1:** dates, and that means in the space of a year. I've already started in January. I will go on 52 dates

**Speaker 0:** with 52 separate girls.

**Speaker 1:** From cold approach daygame pick up? It must be from meeting girls during the day time chops Just to click. Cafes, not in Not online. Not online. Mean social circle? I am I'm I'm not gonna exclude social circle because I might, you know, I I do have a little bit of a social circle I'm build trying to build in Europe and in London. So I just cut myself a little bit of slack. But but primarily, definitely definitely, you know, approaching

**Speaker 0:** girls in during the daytime. Yeah. In in in on the street or, you know, in cafes and shops and shopping centers. Which you already do, and you can do the spiel. You can get numbers. You've been doing the London daygame model for a long time. So to a beginner, he goes, Jesus, fifty two days. Is that possible? But for you, I mean, even last year, how many were you on last year? Well, last year was about 20 or 25 perhaps,

**Speaker 1:** totally different girls. I I I guess I feel it's a difficult challenge,

**Speaker 0:** but I thought carefully about it. I don't think it's impossible. You're doing this calendar year. So January to January, you have to complete your mission pretty much by 01/01/2018 with a little bit of give and take. Correct. That's right. Yeah. Right. So that's the rules of the game. If you wanna play along, feel free. Maybe there's somebody out there who's thinking, that's an interesting project. He's in China, he's gonna go on fifty two days. But anyway, this is what you're doing in Central Europe and in London and everything in between. Okay. So it's not a gimmick, although it's an amazing concept. That's why it caught my eye and my ear because it sounds like a movie. It sounds like a documentary. It sounds like a book. It's it's it's made for, you know, start to end journey. And guys are crossing their fingers thinking,

**Speaker 1:** why is he going on fifty two days? What's he hoping for? Yeah. Well, I guess this is a bit little bit of a I should just sort of declare my kind of interest if you like, which is that I am just completing a book called too late mate, which is the first two to three years of my journey doing day game. And so I am interested in writing and I do vlogs. So I do enjoy this, you know, the production side of it. I really enjoy that. But that's not the primary reason for doing it. The primary reason for doing it really and truly, I mean, I I just I couldn't be more genuine about this. I've spent fifteen, twenty years in the wilderness before I stumbled on this stuff. I'm a guy in my late forties just on the cuff, not looking down the gun barrel of '15. 1850 Yeah. 2017.

**Speaker 0:** Yeah. In May.

**Speaker 1:** I I saw, you know, like any guy my age will tell you, feel young and fresh and, you know, virile. But Let me distance. Yeah. Okay. But two bachelors on a train. It's a pretty empty carriage as well. Valentine's Day speeding through the night. Yeah. So that that's being accountable is, I think, one of the big challenges that guys face because you get a little bit of a rush of interest initially. You get into the staff, you go out, you daygame for a few months or years.

**Speaker 0:** Spit it out, mister a. Why are you doing this project? Don't be on the push. Guys guys are now thinking, does he wanna bang fifty two pounds? So I went off slightly off track. Yeah. I wanna get a wife.

**Speaker 1:** Okay. I wanna get married.

**Speaker 0:** Can you hear across this across the airwaves a gasp and inhale a breath as half of the podcast listeners go, what the fuck? And the other half go, yes, I fucking knew it. I knew that's the purpose of daygame. So we're sitting here with two different I struggled to say it. I struggled to say it. You did? You were asking me then. You delayed saying it. But I guess the truth. Well, that's good. We're sitting here with two different don't sugarcoat it. Call it a long term partner if you like, but why not just call it what it is, married? We have different opinions on this. Yep. And that's fine. And I I'm aware that the podcast audience has different opinions on this. And a video I put out today about Valentine's Day had massively polarized opinions. Half of the guy said, I'm like you, Tom. I just wanna be a bachelor and single, and that's where I get my happiness. And you're not hiding the fact that you're doing daygame to find a quality girl, but you're not grabbing the first girl that's come along because you should the disclaimer should be that you've had success from daygame, success from daygame, and you haven't settled down with the first girl that's come along. Correct. Yeah. And you know what? When I two, three years ago now, when I did a boot camp, Tom was on it.

**Speaker 1:** The reason was in order to find myself a long term partner and but what I'd learned what I really what I really understood by that time and I had done everything in life before that was that a guy needs to go on a right passage we it best if he goes on it when he's young, but just because he's old, he doesn't say, oh, I'm too old. Let's get depressed. Let's join a monastery. Let's become a you know, I'm too stuck in my ways. No. You you never it's never too late, mate, and you should you you gotta go for this rite of passage. Do it now before

**Speaker 0:** it's too late. It's a rite of passage that a man needs to go through. It's the Bilbo Baggins. You've to go on a quest, you know, when Gandalf knocks on the door. I've also said it's like heart of darkness. You have to go up that river and do this commitment from a place of abundance, not from needy scarcity, which which again,

**Speaker 1:** without sugarcoating it, is why the majority of men settle down with the girl from accounts at work. Well, you mean, you you would just put your finger on it there. You know, there's two different camps out there who may be screaming in horror or saying, yes. And and really, it it I do feel a little bit of a schizophrenic because on the one hand, I'm, like, loved up with the idea of perhaps the sentiment of the romantic idea of Barry and the the perfect girl and falling in love with the first one that comes along. But on the other hand, guys who I think are successful in their relationships have been quite systematic about it. They've had a number of girls. They've they've been calculating in inverted commas. And I think I think that's important to get a lot of if you're in business, you know, you wouldn't have just one client and fall in love with them. You would have a dozen clients. And I think that

**Speaker 0:** need to kiss a few frogs. Marriage is a legal document where you're giving away half of your wealth. Luckily, yeah. So why don't you treat it as a very rational, sensible, level headed decision?

**Speaker 1:** That's yeah. No. That's absolutely absolutely right. It it is the most important business, social, personal relationship you're ever gonna most important relationship you're gonna form in in your life if you're into if you're into marriage. But anyway, let's get back to the the Yeah.

**Speaker 0:** And clearly that 52 girls in one year, not sleeping with 52 girls, but sitting down for a glass of wine, couple of glasses of wine with 52 girls gives you a massively better shot at the goal. You have 52 shots at the goal than the guy from the local town who marries the girl who he remembers from high school or, you know, she's a friend of his sister in the local garage. That's how my friends choose their wives. Yeah. So you're you're playing a probability game of 52 dates. How are you gonna achieve 52 dates? Because again, to a beginner, that just sounds wacko. Even if you did Tinder, which you're not going to, but how does a daygamer

**Speaker 1:** do fifty two days? Yeah. Well, in terms of the the program that I'm only just starting to sketch out for myself, but don't forget I have mastered, not mastered, but reached at least a reasonable standard of approaching girls during your happy time. Your daygame is tight as a nun's vagina.

**Speaker 0:** Sweetly put. As a trained spare pass to censor that. You what I mean? You're you're mister k p, the city appreciates. Mister a has no problem with getting phone numbers and converting those phone numbers into dates.

**Speaker 1:** And you often do daily daygame? That's I do. I do it as I'm one of these guys who does it as much for a tonic, for a pick me up, to get out of my head. I work as a lawyer. I have a business. I'm not a full time, you know, seducer, obviously. I'm a regular Joe, and I have to fit it in around my routine. And I do, and shall I just quickly sketch out what the route that routine is? So essentially, I take a break. So I have two to three times a week is my little mantra and I will limit myself to two hours like two afternoons a week and then I'll do perhaps some time at the weekend and on the on on those afternoons, it'll be 03:00. I'll have to work since 08:30, so I'll have to start. Well, I'll have a quick working lunch, and then I'm about ready to just get out and get away from the office. Perhaps it will be rush hour a little bit later on. Perhaps it will be lunch. It can be a good fun period. Keep it interesting.

**Speaker 0:** And you also mix what I do. You mix it up with some waitresses and coffee shop staff. I've seen you do a bit of situational daygame. Yeah. I've always felt that day game was a stepping stone to making this

**Speaker 1:** a more part of your life and a more wholesale kind of way and therefore that if you met an attractive girl wherever she happened to be,

**Speaker 0:** you could approach her. This takes nicely onto the point of enjoying day game too much. One of my sins and one one of your sins that we've discussed is mastering day game, getting very good at converting them to text and even onto dates and thinking, that's it. The mountain is climbed because YouTube and daygame companies certainly tell you that to master this, you just need to master the approach. And your friends think you're amazing because you can get a phone number like that. But the guilty secret of the pickup community is enjoying dates without endgame. And I've made a podcast on endgame. And the other night, while we were skiing or over dinner by a roaring fire, we discussed the danger of actually enjoying dates too much. So is one of the challenges of 52 dates too?

**Speaker 1:** Yeah. I mean, we spoke about this as preparing this podcast and I think that's absolutely critical and just such a really interesting area. A lot of guys may look at me maybe and think, oh, he's got the gift of the gab. He's got the confidence and the courage to approach. Everyone's got their little challenge that they're confronted with and mine is in I will get on the date, so I'll get quite a lot of dates out of phone phone numbers I get. But then I'll just for a variety of reasons perhaps it's enjoying it too much, much perhaps it's some deep secret deep seated demon of not wanting to escalate. Yeah of being because I'm quite a traditionalist in this you know my life not religious exactly but you know got a flat family background that's quite traditional And a father who was very traditional in in his views of women and dating. So perhaps that kicks in, but you you can't deal with that. You just have to learn the principles, have your little chart or your little checklist of what you're going to practice on a day, keep the date as simple as possible and then just sort of run

**Speaker 0:** the routine. Now I tend to be a bit too bland bland bland. Last year if you like was a warm up for this epic 52 date challenge. And on I I spent a lot of time with you last year, as did other fellow day games, going over date venue, date structure, date seating, verbal escalation, physical escalation, have a plan, bounce back logistics, plausible deniability, bedroom escalation, overcoming LMR. And the interesting point we discussed over dinner was even though a guy might know all that, the final challenge for the day gamer or in my case mister nice to seducer is everything from you know second venue up to your bed. So going on fifty two days, what would a day gamer expect out of fifty two days? If you've been doing daygame for a long time and you know how to close, your best case scenario, anybody's best case scenario would be 50%. And guys go, what? You can't sleep with 52 girls? No. Because some of them are no girls, some of them have come out to waste your time or learn English, some of them well, they want serious things, so they're not gonna put out on the first or second date, but maybe that'll work in your favor. So let's say for a guy who's looking for notches, he'd be going for about 20 I'd be hoping for twenty twenty five notches out of that but you're in an interesting situation where hand on heart you're not looking to get 25 notches are you? No I'm not I'm not. Unfortunately,

**Speaker 1:** boat has sailed really, notch notches and and bedding girls, seducing girls, having sex with lots of lots of girls. That's No. Not No. This is this is our argument. I I think you don't let it happen. You shoot yourself in the foot and you say, I'm not gonna escalate because I the bet the boat has sailed. So I was having a conversation with a a dude who's really proper successful and experienced in this area. This was a couple of years ago now, and I was saying look I'm a little bit of a traditionalist, I want to meet a bird long term, do I have to go through sleeping with bucket loads of girls in order to do so? And he said, Mr A, look mate, the thing is not about necessarily having sex with these girls, but you've got to be in the bedroom, be escalating to a point where you know that you can do it. So that when you do meet your one,

**Speaker 0:** then

**Speaker 1:** God. I'm I'll take the I'll take the sticky tape off your mouth now.

**Speaker 0:** I disagree with this dude. I I I have to put my cards on the table because it it it's so key for listeners. Well, this isn't a family show. I think we should take the gloves off and and We should. Argue the point. I I think that's fair. To find the quote, unquote one or one of the ones, the good one out of these 52 girls, you have to suck it up that that girl has come out on a date because she wants sex. And again, half the listeners go, what? No. They don't. They don't. She's pure. I said, look, my dad used to say to me, the sex out of the way. Mhmm. Get the beer goggles off goggles. And then the next morning when you wake up with her, you can see her in crystal clear clarity. You can say, do I actually like her or was I just horny? Because many of the girls I've thought, they're amazing. As soon as I have sex with them, think, no, she's actually quite boring. I was just really horny until you've had sex and she wants it remember so she'll hold it against you if you don't pull the trigger you'll lose a high number of those 52 and some of them could have been the one quote unquote so I don't I'm not saying you have to go for 25 lays, but if she's there on your bed saying, come on, mister a. Well, I I mean, last

**Speaker 1:** year and the beginning of this year, I have well, I've had sex with three different girls, I think. Oh, yeah. So I haven't You've achieved day game success? From day game. So I've not and the the the point is the 20 or 25 others I didn't escalate

**Speaker 0:** very hard. So that's perhaps not a very good Yeah. But did you therefore lose out on one last year? Who that's million dollar question. That's that's

**Speaker 1:** a that's a better question. That's that's a good question. Because I had last year certainly one, probably two girls whom I would have loved as a long term partner. I'm not sure that would have been the one, but they were a one.

**Speaker 0:** And they they had no. I I didn't didn't have sex with either of them. That's why I disagree with that guy who said Just glimmicknessy, but not sex. And do you see the importance of rapid escalation?

**Speaker 1:** I am I could see that it works. Yeah. I mean, just two weeks ago yeah. I mean, it was pretty effortless, and it it was so much easier because, you know, we kissed on the first date and we had sex by the third date, which was actually kind of quite fast because the first date was very short. And that was in Central Europe where guys could, you know, really have sex on a second day. And that was in Central Europe. Yeah. A nice twenty eight eight year old redhead, a really lovely girl. Very good.

**Speaker 0:** So that that's just my caveat. Certainly, if you're listening. Yeah. I know some guys will take this completely literally and say, right. I also want a wife, so therefore, I'm not gonna pull the trigger or escalate. I'm gonna do three, four, or five days

**Speaker 1:** because the this guy on a podcast said it was a good idea. That's fair enough. I mean, for a of guys, I guess, who'll be listening to this just as I was listening to podcasts couple years ago. You don't, you know, it's such a good excuse not to man up to say, oh, well, I don't treat with girls. I don't have sex. She's not that kind of bill. Yeah. And and I that was where I was, I guess. Proper I was proper in that place. So that's a fair caveat that the you you know, there will be guys listening who must not take this the wrong way. But if there's a very religious person out there,

**Speaker 0:** I Do you still Oh, I disagree. Yeah. You still disagree? His religion, bless him, is called what's causing him this problem. It's not not a nice answer,

**Speaker 1:** but you have to you have to be a dirty bastard. Well, I guess that's this is a topic for another day, but to answer the point, I think, yeah, I'm gonna be sleeping with some of these girls definitely. Good.

**Speaker 0:** Okay. And then narrowing it down to a girl who you first want to date and then test the waters with and then,

**Speaker 1:** you know, see what's what. I think the caveat again is that you always got the ability to go out and do more day game. Yeah. You have an inner strength where you can go out and do it all again. I think I feel as if I mean, it's crazy really. I expect to kind of, in my arrogance, get this sorted in eighteen months. You know what I mean? But really, it's taken me to two over two years to just get a good routine in place, get daydream that all breaks into my life such that I could generate dates.

**Speaker 0:** Guys don't like to hear it, but that's you've done you've done it in less than the average time. The skill set takes two years to get. And then if a guy is listening to this and he's 21 years old, I would say don't don't do what mister a is doing until you're at least 35. If a guy asked me for advice on Skype or on email, I say, I've got nothing against monogamy in children, whatever. But 35 is when you're you're you've got your peak male value. Don't cash in your chips before then. Alright? Have as much fun as you want. Go off and be a Buddhist monk for ten years if you want. When you're 35 Yeah. Take on fifty two day challenge. Anyway Yeah. Grandfather time time is ticking. So how are you gonna be accountable?

**Speaker 1:** You've obviously announced it, is step one. Yeah. Well, I as I say I have been doing some vlogs and I enjoy enjoying that. I had to do vlogs professionally actually so that's my go to journal I think it's absolutely important and critical that you've got a sort of a method of schedule discipline in place and for me it will almost certainly be vlogging on a YouTube channel. Tell ing the story of each date and then learning, hopefully, taking that knowledge into the next day on how to escalate on dates. Because although the end goal is a partner,

**Speaker 0:** the the thing I need to focus on not during those dates is just getting good escalation on the date. Yeah. The good news about dating sticking points, you already know this but for the podcast audience is that there's only one dating sticking point I've ever come across very interesting if you diagnose daygame sticking points and texting sticking points there's hundreds possibly thousands And, yeah, you analyze the guys in fields or his audios or you watch him and whatever. But with a date, every man that I've ever coached, including myself, has the same sticking point, which is what's the dating sticking point?

**Speaker 1:** Every man has the same problem on a date while asking her home about getting her to getting her to your place. Yeah. Sex. Would that be right? Yeah. Yeah. Guys or You mean actually once she's there doing the deed? No. Going on a date,

**Speaker 0:** guys across the world always fail at the same thing.

**Speaker 1:** The but I'll tell you what the hardest thing for me is, and so maybe it will be the thing here, even with this girl a couple of weeks ago, there's just a massive resistance that comes to using the old plausible deniability suggesting that, you know, you've got a half a bottle of wine that needs polishing up and your fat is around the corner. That's it. Actually just doing that, that's called pulling the trigger.

**Speaker 0:** Right. Guys sit on a date and the the real The real danger is enjoying the date and I've I've I know a couple of students that get a little bit tipsy on the date. They start they they they tell a lovely long story about this ski trip they once had, and she's laughing. And here's the sick thing about life. The girl's laughing. She's loving it. She's patting you on the shoulder. She is saying, mister a, you are the this is the most interesting hour I've ever had. You are a fascinating storyteller. And that encourages the student to go away and do it again and do it again and do it again. We all come from the mister nice background. We think that we'd be better off delaying the escalation because our brain tells us if you wait till the next time you

**Speaker 1:** stand a higher chance which is actually an avoidance mechanism and in today's world, girls are waiting for you to do it on the first day. I've I've got two just classic quickly examples of that. One was a girl where it's going very well, then she she then threw up. I've gotta go back to my Yeah. Help a friend out, a male friend out with his with his his dissertation. And I and I said, I bottled out and I said, oh, okay. You better do that. And I played mister nice. You better get home, young lady. We'll meet on the because I thought there'll be another opportunity. Yeah. There was not. Exam ple number two, Ukrainian girl, really lovely girl. She came out. We were were at the bar with some football on. We had a few beers. We ordered some food. And rather than me do what I would usually do and go to second date venue it got just so much so much we really enjoyed each other's company at the bar got a bit tactile no kissing again goodbye and I was convinced that there would be a second and third a second date at least

**Speaker 0:** no nothing. No, the window Nothing. The window closes. And if you're in Western Europe, America, Australia, because of the Tinder phenomenon, just because of modern dating, girls come out and they've shaved their legs, they're ready. And that doesn't mean they have sex with you, but it means they want you to try. And just like going for the kiss, if you try and fail, you actually stand a higher chance than if you didn't try. Anyway, that's my rant over about if you're listening and you're thinking of doing this challenge. Sure. Go for a quality kill, but perfect your pulling the trigger technique. Yeah. Anyway, we got finished the podcast as a woman stumbles past us with a baby. Mister a wanted to help her. I said, go fuck yourself. That was podcast 90 about to offer her your seat. That was podcast 96. Until next time. Ta da.